"I am sure you know more than I do , but all the shows that I have been to in the last several years they listed the epd,s in the show program and handed a carcass sheet to the judge. I will admit however that I havn't sat and watched a black show all the way through. I have never have even picked up a show program. I would think however the way the breed promotes their epd's , that they would be in the show program. They will also usually anounce the class winners sire as well.Btw I would say that 878 calves that I think you said you use would make up a large part of the show strings. I also know ext calves were the deal for awhile till the stupid disposition got the best of them."
I'm not sure that I know more about the show ring than you do, Ollie. If so, you're in trouble. The only shows we go to are local shows where we know either kids or cattle that are being shown. If they print up a program, I haven't seen it so don't know if it has EPDs or not. I do know a lady whose daughters were very, very successful showing Angus. She still raises show calves and seems to do quite well at it. Her heifers are often high sellers at sales we both attend. Sometimes her heifer's BW EPD will hurt their sale though. When I mentioned using EPDs in the show ring, she was very definite that the judges only look at EPDs as a final discriminator between two heifers. But, IMO (again), the Angus show business and Angus beef business have very little in common. Disposition might have been a reason EXT didn't make it in the show ring, but I'd bet it was more because he was a moderate framed bull. Plus, his daughters aren't necessarily as attractive as some other bulls. 878 is probably showing up in the show ring, but don't think he's in the running as the "Show Sire of the Year" or whatever title they give the bull who sired the most winners. Our calves sired by him have been pretty moderate framed, too; he doesn't seem to pass on the frame that his sire, 036 did, plus ours are slick haired (like 036 calves) and that's a negative for the show ring, too.