Wowee, whatta welcome. I don't hardly know what to say but I got to say something dont I. Hope you can hear me from down here at the bottom of the pile. LOL
I was raised to believe that a man NEVER gives up ground when he's right....That the beatin you get at home will always be way worse than what you get away from home if you do. But before he digs in to stand his ground first he ALWAYS apologizes and admits when he is wrong. Same beatin if you dont. I still try to live my life that way long after the beatins are done. LOL So let me start by saying I'm sorry to the Camground Cattle Company Hereford guy for my small and childish namecalling. I say whats on my mind but I was wrong with the Camp Playground and girlscout Camp stuff. Maybe even the wannabe rancher was wrong to say.
Now iguess I'll just start at the begining. You were all so nice to welcome me that I think you all deserve an answer back. I better make a list so that I can check them off and dont leave nobody out
1. Caustic Burno
2. Muratic
3. Mahoney Pursley Ranch
4. Craig-TX
5. certherfbeef
6. brokenmouth
Theres 6 of you that need response from 1 of me so it may take some time. Craig-TX said that I ouhta go back and read old posts and that I have done to help my memory but Ive been reading posts here for a long time anyway. I even posted as a guest here a long time ago when you could still do that. I think the guys at ranchers.net are ranchers more like me but I see a problem with some of them so i registerd here. They like to argue to much and gang up on people that dont agree with em. The new guy Malcom has done a lot to clean up the language and some of the fighting though. Getting to be a nicer place again but i thought the people here were easier to get along with. Imagine that
After going back and reading postings as Craig-TX said I will combine my response to #1. Caustic Burno and 2. Muratic, since you are kin. both of your posts really lost me. Even now when i read them again. Muratic thinks my posts are to long....Got that part. Muratic,don't read them. Simple. And both of you still have areal good contribution to make. Try this. Next time somebody ask about trouble with close linebreeding you too can chirp up. Dont matter what you say they will have there answer.
I need to quote stuff next. I dont yet know how to do that like some of you do with the boxes. Wish I could. For now I have to copy and paste Maybe somebody will tell me how later. You can send a private message so nobody knows you helped me.
Mahoney Pursley Ranch, you said:
"Campground and others on this board have forgotten more about cattle,dogs,farmin etc than people like you ever knew. Perhaps if you opened your mind and listened you'd learn something. NUFF SAID"
From reading old postings I know you justretired to a ranch down in Texas and I am really pleased for you. Happy for you. Someof us take for granted things that you have dreamed about and now lookingforward to. I hope you enjoy that life as much as I have. Maybe when you get a few years experince I will feel like you are more better able to judge how much I know or dont know. Try your advise "Perhaps if you opened your mind and listened you'd learn something." I will be happy to help you in any way that I can. Good luck to you. And the "NUFF SAID" thing that you and Campground Cattle Company seem to share sometimes may work around your house. Not with me.
Now comesCraig-TX. Craig-TX, you say
"Tapeworm, you've been here for three whole days and made 14 posts. Don't you think it's a little soon to go p-ssing on somebody's leg? Especially when it's plain that they have years of experience and a lot to offer? Heck, read through his posts if you don't believe it. Before you start labeling people wanna be ranchers and girlscouts you might want to consider how credibility is built up. It's done by making intelligent remarks and adding thoughtful opinions. You don't have to agree with everybody on everything and it's OK to get into arguments. But tearing down the likes of Campground in order to make yourself look good will backfire 100% of the time with anybody whose been around these boards for long. And with anybody who knows cattle."
I Hate having to debate with you CraigTx. You are so wellspoken. I really admire that. I hope that people listen to what I have to say and not compare theway I say it to you. I will always lose then. Guess 14 posts is to much in 3 or 4 days because that is about 4 or moreper day. Sorry that I didnt know their was a limit for newcomers. I was confused by some ofthe Gurus that average way more than that even over a year. Sometimes doing 30 posts in 1day. Really funny dont you think. You guys give aGuru status to somebody based on number of posts. But you complain about a newcomer posting 14 in 3 or 4 days.Sorry for my mistake. Now that I know the rules,I will try to abide them.
andI didn't tryto teardown Campground Cattle Company to make me look good. (don't care how I look to any of you.) He did that hisself and you helpedhim Craig-Tx. When he made his posting about letting a 9 month old pup get kicked to break itfrom biting to high and you posted right after that pretty much in agreement with him. That wasn't what Rjw was asking forI dont think. You remember him? He asked the question about helping the pup without getting him hurt or discouraged. I was only trying to help. I even said that your Campground Cattle Company guy may have only been trying to be funny. And to this day I still believe that he was really joking. I said that if he wasnt, that he didn't know anything about dogs. I stand by that statment today but he wanted to defend his position and ridicule me because he spends more money on dogs than I can afford. Now you want to defend him again. You were right that Campground Cattle Company has a lot to offer with his postings. The Campcattle guy must really be a pretty good guy....he's sure a lucky guy. To have friends like all of you to defend him. Even when he's wrong. But I was raised to believe that a real friend is man enough to tell somebody when there wrong.
Craig-Tx you say I was trying to tear him down...just to make me look good. This is your quote:"But tearing down the likes of Campground in order to make yourself look good will backfire 100% of the time with anybody whose been around these boards for long. And with anybody who knows cattle." Now this quote was from Mr. Campground Cattle Company: "When it comes to cow dogs doubt if your checkbook is thick enough to buy the quality of dog I run."
It doesnt excuse what I did, but what did you call that Craig-Tx? Did that backfire with anybody whose been around these boards for long or with anybody who knows cattle.Was he doing what you accused me of or not? Trying to tear me down to make himself look good. Were you outraged then and where is your public rebuking of him? Thats different I guess. He's a guru and probaly your friend.Im justa new guy trying to help somebody. Where I come from we call that a double standard Craigtx. Here I guess it is your standard.
How bout you certherfbeef. You said:
"Very well said Craig, as usual."
I guess you agree with what Craig-TX said. But what you say is factually true. It was very well said. Everything I ever read of Craig-Tx has been well said.I really have no argument with you certherfbeef becasue what you say is true.
Now to you brokenmouth. Finally to #6 on the list. Even though you were last on my list you are reallyat the top of the pile. Thats the way it works in the pile on world you guys have here. Stay up there if you can brokenmouth.....it is a lot better than being down here on the bottom of the pile. Of all the people here I feel like you are probaly more like me. Craig-Tx makes both of us look bad because he is so good at sayin stuff he means. I dont pay enough atention to doing that any more. Guys like you usuallymake me more comfortble. But you said:
"tapeworm you dont know campground from adams off ox and your already struttin around and pickin fights. For lands sakes theres plenty of idiots commin and goin on here from time to time but he aint one of em."
Well brokenmouth I dont have to strut and I wasnt picking any fights. Camground Cattle Company set to trying to ridicule me about spending more on dogs than me and he's rightbecause I dont buy mycowdogs. And to top it off he said about Rjw the guy with the pup question "Anybody thats dumb enough to put a nine month old dog on cows deserves to have the s... kicked out of it." Rjw is a newcomer like me. Guess we deserve that treatment for being new. By the way brokenmouth you dont know me from "adams off ox" either. I know more about all of you than you do me. Counting Campground Cattle Company I have over 3,500 posts to read to learn about the 7 of you. 14 postings that you used to judge me.
You know this is real simple but i dont think some of you gusy get it. Being a new registered user does not mean that I amnew to this forum and being new to this forum does not mean that a person is new to cattle. Or dogs. Do you guys get that? BEING NEW TO THIS FORUM DOES NOT MEAN THAT A PERSON IS NEW TO CATTLE Being new to this forum does not make us less because we havent been on here as long as some of you.
If you want to post more mean replies to me here you get free shots at me. I wont say any more onthis topic. But I will read and remember your shots and have replies for you at some point but I cant be on here as much as some of you. Thats why it took me so long to get back with you. Retribution from me may not be swift but you can bet that it will be coming when I get the chance....Count on that.I tried to answer in public those of you that jumped on me. Send me a private mesage if you want to jaw any more please so we can get back to the pup.
Maybe if we stop it now Rjw can get some help with his 9 month old pup. Before he gets kicked into orbit a few times like Campground cattle said. Maybe the fellersbarnone ranch will be able to help you Rjw. That is if you are still reading postings....I know being called dumb probaly doesnt make you want to take much more of that. Please dont let that run you off. Lots of good help on here and good people too. Like you I had wanted to be part of that...Im sorry to you for my part in getting off track. Listen to fellersbarnoneranch. He has good advice and besides me is the only one that posted that cares about your pup. I'm just sorry that I let the CampCattle guy get under my skin trying to ridicule me about having more money. Hes right but I dont have to like it.For that I am also sorry
All this stuff makes me start to bekleive in the Texas posse I read about here. But you wont here me talking down about the posse if there is one. I see thru some of the fakes they smoke out too like the Chicago horses guy. They have good intents and do mostly good. That describes most of the Texas people I know.Sometimes I thnink the people that run the posse down or put down other groups are just from jealousy because they are not part of it.But sometimes posses get the wrong man.It reminds me of this quote from brokenmouth to me
"others just get off to a rough start then settle down and get along pretty well. well which are you gonna be"
My question for the posse is this borrowed from brokenmouth... Which are you gonna be. The posse that admts when it has the wrong man or the posse that hangs him anyway just to keep from saying you were wrong? Dont much matter to me. I'm sure i can either get along or get out of your rope.You choose.
Well I guess that does it folks. Sorry it was so long winded. I had a lot of you to answer to. Just one of me. Sorry it was to long for Muratic to get to read it all. (LOL with me Muratic...I wont tell nobody your still here) Hope none of you were sad thinking that I had tucked tail and took off.
Thanks again for the warm welcome guys. Im already learning hard lessons here. Heres one: all the things I have learned in 40+ years of fooling with dogs will go to my grave with me before I share it with any of you.Hope that makes you happy. Sure dont want any of you guru types to be scared of learnin something from a new guy. But youre not going to run me off because I will be here. Thats a promise. You dont have to like it. But you are going to have to get used to it.
