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<blockquote data-quote="Bez" data-source="post: 33160" data-attributes="member: 412"><p>Interesting comments - as a Canadian cattle producer - once in Saskatchewan and now in Ontario - I have not yet heard of this.</p><p></p><p>Sent a few animals - all Horned Herefords - to market - here are the prices:</p><p></p><p>Cull cows - all under 7 years of age - culled for attitude, mothering, open and so on. All in good shape - no ribs showing, good feet - no real dog like animals - just a normal thinning of the herd - any one of them could have gone into my freezer but it is full to over flowing.</p><p></p><p>Managed twenty one cents per pound on cows averaging 1600 pounds.</p><p></p><p>Before May 20 last year we were averaging 80 cents per pound or better.</p><p></p><p>Steers - all ready to go - double vaccinated, Ivomec'd, de-horned, castrated (steers!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ), birth weights, birth dates, weaning weights, medical history, etc provided for each animal along with veterinary letter as proof. Animals averaged 725 pounds - 63 cents per pound.</p><p></p><p>Before May 20 last year we were averaging 1.48 per pound.</p><p></p><p>Heifers - as above - except not castrated! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> Animals averaged 650 pounds. Managed almost 52 cents a pound.</p><p></p><p>Before May 20 last year we were averaging 1.28 per pound</p><p></p><p>Neighbours have had cows go to market and actually received a bill for trucking because cows did not manage to cover the trucking cost. One was even given away. Local cattle buyer paid 50 cents a pound for 14 finished Hereford steers - DELIVERED into his yard - this just last week.</p><p></p><p>I gave a real nice orphan calf to my neighbours' kids two weeks ago - did not have the heart to shoot it - and did not want to buy milk replacer - all other cows "occupied". </p><p></p><p>I am 80K deeper in debt this year than last year. I still have a small herd of cattle in the west - what's left from our last cattle operation. I will sell the entire calf crop as well as all breds, opens and culls this fall at whatever the price because I do not want to pay to feed them. We hope to average 450 dollars per animal on average. </p><p></p><p>But only time will tell, as the Canadian herd numbers are at an all time high and there will probably be a darned big run / sell off this fall.</p><p></p><p>Good steaks sell in the stores for around 10 dollars per pound or 23 bucks per kilo if you prefer metric. I actually saw a prime rib roast on sale for 18 bucks a pound - I left the meat counter in disgust. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p>Packers hold huge numbers of cattle in yards across the country. Someone is making the money - and it sure is not the average producer.</p><p></p><p>I belong to CCA, OCA, OFA and my wife sits as a director on the county cattlemans' association. I have not seen one organization that has done anything more than spend my membership cash on high class travel and fancy media events. :roll: </p><p></p><p>As for politicians - there may be some good ones, but they are few and far between - most tend to be far to liberal for most of us country types. They certainly have not represented the ideals and values of the rural folk in this country. But we do share one thing in commonn - we both like good wine - unfortunately I do not have an expense account to cover the cost of a bottle. </p><p></p><p>We are in good company here as we are in serious survival mode. My wife now runs a major local poultry operation and works there an average of 50 - 60 hours a week. I start a job selling insurance and investments in two weeks - thank heavens my two teenaged daughters - 14 and 17 - are with us through thick and thin - they have taken over the daily operations here.</p><p></p><p>In my local area, Lanark County has formed a landowners association and is running government inspectors, environmentalists and other government riff raff officials off of farm land. Things are getting rather warm here if you understand my drift. So in the end I will have to contact my western friends and find out more.</p><p></p><p>Rant mode is now off - my final comment - too much inter country trouble twixt us and the U.S. of A. and what used to be a fully integrated industry. There are still many, many cattle in this country owned by folks from south of the border - including industry and individuals - in fact they are still being purchased. Politics not science has led us down this path, and in the end when the mouse (me) sleeps with the elephant (you folks) - it tends to gets very nervous when the elephant rolls over.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for the heads up - I plan to look into this. </p><p></p><p>Best to all,</p><p></p><p>Bez</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bez, post: 33160, member: 412"] Interesting comments - as a Canadian cattle producer - once in Saskatchewan and now in Ontario - I have not yet heard of this. Sent a few animals - all Horned Herefords - to market - here are the prices: Cull cows - all under 7 years of age - culled for attitude, mothering, open and so on. All in good shape - no ribs showing, good feet - no real dog like animals - just a normal thinning of the herd - any one of them could have gone into my freezer but it is full to over flowing. Managed twenty one cents per pound on cows averaging 1600 pounds. Before May 20 last year we were averaging 80 cents per pound or better. Steers - all ready to go - double vaccinated, Ivomec'd, de-horned, castrated (steers!! :) ), birth weights, birth dates, weaning weights, medical history, etc provided for each animal along with veterinary letter as proof. Animals averaged 725 pounds - 63 cents per pound. Before May 20 last year we were averaging 1.48 per pound. Heifers - as above - except not castrated! :D Animals averaged 650 pounds. Managed almost 52 cents a pound. Before May 20 last year we were averaging 1.28 per pound Neighbours have had cows go to market and actually received a bill for trucking because cows did not manage to cover the trucking cost. One was even given away. Local cattle buyer paid 50 cents a pound for 14 finished Hereford steers - DELIVERED into his yard - this just last week. I gave a real nice orphan calf to my neighbours' kids two weeks ago - did not have the heart to shoot it - and did not want to buy milk replacer - all other cows "occupied". I am 80K deeper in debt this year than last year. I still have a small herd of cattle in the west - what's left from our last cattle operation. I will sell the entire calf crop as well as all breds, opens and culls this fall at whatever the price because I do not want to pay to feed them. We hope to average 450 dollars per animal on average. But only time will tell, as the Canadian herd numbers are at an all time high and there will probably be a darned big run / sell off this fall. Good steaks sell in the stores for around 10 dollars per pound or 23 bucks per kilo if you prefer metric. I actually saw a prime rib roast on sale for 18 bucks a pound - I left the meat counter in disgust. :mad: Packers hold huge numbers of cattle in yards across the country. Someone is making the money - and it sure is not the average producer. I belong to CCA, OCA, OFA and my wife sits as a director on the county cattlemans' association. I have not seen one organization that has done anything more than spend my membership cash on high class travel and fancy media events. :roll: As for politicians - there may be some good ones, but they are few and far between - most tend to be far to liberal for most of us country types. They certainly have not represented the ideals and values of the rural folk in this country. But we do share one thing in commonn - we both like good wine - unfortunately I do not have an expense account to cover the cost of a bottle. We are in good company here as we are in serious survival mode. My wife now runs a major local poultry operation and works there an average of 50 - 60 hours a week. I start a job selling insurance and investments in two weeks - thank heavens my two teenaged daughters - 14 and 17 - are with us through thick and thin - they have taken over the daily operations here. In my local area, Lanark County has formed a landowners association and is running government inspectors, environmentalists and other government riff raff officials off of farm land. Things are getting rather warm here if you understand my drift. So in the end I will have to contact my western friends and find out more. Rant mode is now off - my final comment - too much inter country trouble twixt us and the U.S. of A. and what used to be a fully integrated industry. There are still many, many cattle in this country owned by folks from south of the border - including industry and individuals - in fact they are still being purchased. Politics not science has led us down this path, and in the end when the mouse (me) sleeps with the elephant (you folks) - it tends to gets very nervous when the elephant rolls over. Thanks for the heads up - I plan to look into this. Best to all, Bez [/QUOTE]
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