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<blockquote data-quote="Beefy" data-source="post: 623956" data-attributes="member: 57"><p>Thanks Knersie. i sort of figured the loose stool (with this calf anyway) was due at least in part if not entirely to the valbazen. it seems like the third day after worming them is the hardest on them. but the orangeness threw me off. this time last year i had a few bottle jaws that wouldnt go away and i was convinced i had a fluke problem and/or that i had a resitance problem with ivomec (people around here think i'm stupid for believing in resistance but thats another thread..). i asked the vet and he said no, we dont have flukes here. i was not convinced. the vet supply man said no,. no flukes in our area. but i had to see for myself. so i went with ivomec plus specifically to target the flukes. well, it didnt really seem to help. so i kind of ruled out flukes. now i'm reconsidering after you say it may take multiple times. my cows range in wetlands or sandhills, depending on mother nature. i have treated calves multiple times with valbazen and after about the third time they seem to get better. but will flukes cause the manure to be almost gelatinous and clear? or if firm it will soemtimes have muscousy looking stuff in it (is the sloughing of the intestine?). this is why i'm thinking more along the lines of coccidiosis now. oh another symptom from merck is that they eventually lay down on their side with their head arched back and cant get up and mine have done this too. </p><p></p><p>will the bottle jaw not eventually go away on its own after the ailment is cleared up? i dont expect it to disappear overnight (thats why i was shocked with the last calf when hers was compeltely gone the next morning--i really think the sulfaboluses did her in by dehyration)</p><p></p><p>also, if Milkmaid is out there reading this i'd like to request a do-it-yourself Necropsy thread or in my case a Necropsy for Dummies thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beefy, post: 623956, member: 57"] Thanks Knersie. i sort of figured the loose stool (with this calf anyway) was due at least in part if not entirely to the valbazen. it seems like the third day after worming them is the hardest on them. but the orangeness threw me off. this time last year i had a few bottle jaws that wouldnt go away and i was convinced i had a fluke problem and/or that i had a resitance problem with ivomec (people around here think i'm stupid for believing in resistance but thats another thread..). i asked the vet and he said no, we dont have flukes here. i was not convinced. the vet supply man said no,. no flukes in our area. but i had to see for myself. so i went with ivomec plus specifically to target the flukes. well, it didnt really seem to help. so i kind of ruled out flukes. now i'm reconsidering after you say it may take multiple times. my cows range in wetlands or sandhills, depending on mother nature. i have treated calves multiple times with valbazen and after about the third time they seem to get better. but will flukes cause the manure to be almost gelatinous and clear? or if firm it will soemtimes have muscousy looking stuff in it (is the sloughing of the intestine?). this is why i'm thinking more along the lines of coccidiosis now. oh another symptom from merck is that they eventually lay down on their side with their head arched back and cant get up and mine have done this too. will the bottle jaw not eventually go away on its own after the ailment is cleared up? i dont expect it to disappear overnight (thats why i was shocked with the last calf when hers was compeltely gone the next morning--i really think the sulfaboluses did her in by dehyration) also, if Milkmaid is out there reading this i'd like to request a do-it-yourself Necropsy thread or in my case a Necropsy for Dummies thread. [/QUOTE]
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