chuckie, in georgia skunktails (thats what i call them) dont sell well b/c the buyers can and do discount them for being longhorns even though they know good and well they arent. but thats fine with me b/c i like the skunktails and i keep them. well, not the bull calves...the cows make great mothers. mine however didnt cme from pinzguaer or longhorn breeding, my skunktails came from a charolais bull when crossed with certain angus cows. i think the pinzgauer x angus cow would be an excellent cow but good luck getting rid of the coloration anytime soon.