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<blockquote data-quote="Bobaroni" data-source="post: 677862" data-attributes="member: 8011"><p>We are all at the mercy of the market my friend. I have been running a stocker op for a few years now. Its a sideline not a full time deal but I don't think anybody is making much profit these days. But I'm able to do a little better than break even. I don't really see that doing the cow calf split is gonna bring you any more profit than doing say a backgrounding or stocker operation. Shoot, to be honest unless something changes for the better it just doesn' look all that good. I have one aquaintenance that is going down to deep south Texas and buying a double decker load every month and marketing them in alternative ways and he is doing better than I am. That area has been in drought since 2002 and the poor guys just can't pay the feed bill and make anything at all. Its tough man! The EPA and the Obama administration are back on the methane tax for producers again this time its for anybody running more than 50 head of beef cattle or 25 head of dairy cattle that is the approximate number that would meet the 100 ton threshold for greenhouse gasses. Heres the worst part the taxing rate would come to $175/hd for dairy cattle and $87.50/hd for beef cattle. You should all contact your elected officials immediately and voice your concerns over this proposed tax. Cattlemen have always been price takers and not price makers. Our entire future is riding on this. I guess we will be getting all our milk and beef from China and Mexico. I can't stress enough GET INVOLVED! This all stems from the EPA's emminant likelihood to classify greenhouse gasses as a public health threat. From some other discussions I have been in this will require us to get a permit from EPA to operate and could also open the door for various litigations from people wanting to sue us for methane emissions from cattle or our equipment. Another proposal was squashed last year and now they have found a different avenue of attack on the farmer this just shows you how determined these folks are to put the rancher out of business. God only knows why!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bobaroni, post: 677862, member: 8011"] We are all at the mercy of the market my friend. I have been running a stocker op for a few years now. Its a sideline not a full time deal but I don't think anybody is making much profit these days. But I'm able to do a little better than break even. I don't really see that doing the cow calf split is gonna bring you any more profit than doing say a backgrounding or stocker operation. Shoot, to be honest unless something changes for the better it just doesn' look all that good. I have one aquaintenance that is going down to deep south Texas and buying a double decker load every month and marketing them in alternative ways and he is doing better than I am. That area has been in drought since 2002 and the poor guys just can't pay the feed bill and make anything at all. Its tough man! The EPA and the Obama administration are back on the methane tax for producers again this time its for anybody running more than 50 head of beef cattle or 25 head of dairy cattle that is the approximate number that would meet the 100 ton threshold for greenhouse gasses. Heres the worst part the taxing rate would come to $175/hd for dairy cattle and $87.50/hd for beef cattle. You should all contact your elected officials immediately and voice your concerns over this proposed tax. Cattlemen have always been price takers and not price makers. Our entire future is riding on this. I guess we will be getting all our milk and beef from China and Mexico. I can't stress enough GET INVOLVED! This all stems from the EPA's emminant likelihood to classify greenhouse gasses as a public health threat. From some other discussions I have been in this will require us to get a permit from EPA to operate and could also open the door for various litigations from people wanting to sue us for methane emissions from cattle or our equipment. Another proposal was squashed last year and now they have found a different avenue of attack on the farmer this just shows you how determined these folks are to put the rancher out of business. God only knows why! [/QUOTE]
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