Wick":1pcucqdr said:
What do you see as pros and cons of putting bulls on test. And also, can a person seem to justify costs to do so. I am stuck on the fence over this one of wheather to put some on test or to just keep poking along as usual. Maybe those of you who do or have done this can give me some in put here. Thanks in advance.
Wick,
This depends alot on your scope:
1. who are you selling most of your bulls to?
2. Are your bull buyers a cow/calf operation only or cow/calf + stocker or cow/calf + stocker + retained ownership thru the feedyard?
3. Other questions are -- what kind of Test? Forage Test or Feed Test?
4. Who is benefiting the most with a Feed test?
5. Who is benefiting the most with a Forage Test?
Your scope- What do you want your bulls to portray to a buyer? A feed test tells him what? What a bull will gain when on full feed- so what? and is that important for a cow/calf enterprise selling calves at weaning? -- NOT REALLY
Is a Bull Test telling a bull buyer anything about fertility? or calving ease? or birth weight? or weaning weight? or Yearling weight, or REA? or IMF? or BF or phenotype or genotype --NO feed and/or forage efficiency -Yes
We used to send bulls to a Bull test, but have all but discontinued that practice due to the cost of doing it. We can feed bulls cheaper on our place, so why send them to a Bull test?
Bulls coming off a feed test are too fat, lazy and usually shed 200 - 300 lbs when put out for breeding season.
Bulls coming off a forage test are hardened off already and lose no weight and vigorously get to breeding and don't miss a step.
I believe a feed test is a waste of time because it only benefits the near end user (the feedyard) and if you are a cow/calf operation
you would have long since sold your calves. The cow calf man/woman wants to know about calving ease, birth weight, weaning weight, because that is when they are selling their calves- usually.
"Our sale we have every year we ask bull buyers what are you looking for in a bull"? Ya know what 90% say?
We want a good calving ease bull that we dont have to worry about calving issues and produce calves that have better than average weaning weights. 90% of our bulls go to commercial cow calf operations that sell their calves at weaning..... now who does a feed test benefit?
Forage tests better benefit the cow/calf producer because this is of interest.
Yes, they would want to know what will my calves do when they are put on forage since most people will not be full feeding their calves post weaning, but some might be carrying them over in a stocker operation.
Keep your bulls at home feed them get your own data and advertise them on a web page and I believe you would come out better than sending them away from home on some Bull Test