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TennesseeTuxedo":rub15f0w said:
Dogs and Cows":1oelc6c9 said:Margonme":1oelc6c9 said:TennesseeTuxedo":1oelc6c9 said:I'm a big fan of the Hereford breed, I like Angus as well both black and red. I've always heard there was a lot of animosity amoungst some in the Hereford community. I guess I just don't understand why?
I can tell you why! OVER IDENTIFICATION.
Humans have a problem with that. Ever see a parent at a youth sporting event? Makes me ill. Saw a man in Montana disparage his son to the point the poor kid was crying and couldn't function because his dad was yelling obscenities at him for missing a soccer goal. You would have thought the father was out there playing and the kid disgraced him. That was a case of OVER IDENTIFICATION with his son.
People do it over their favorite sports teams. When Kentucky loses a basketball game, the whole state acts like there was a funeral!!
And yes, people over identify with the breed of cattle they have spent their career on.
Personally, I don't give a crap what breed I raise. I enjoy cattle. I enjoy animals. I could be just as happy with Angus.
That is living vicariously through a child...that is different. A sports team makes people feel part of something...takes them away from their "dull" lives...part of a group. I agree the same could be said for cattle...and I am just like you...I love cows and as long as I have well mannered animals I could probably care less what the exact breed is. Black, Red, White, or otherwise...although I do want them to pay their way :nod:
TennesseeTuxedo":2wm3yyfm said:Margonme":2wm3yyfm said:TennesseeTuxedo":2wm3yyfm said:I'm a big fan of the Hereford breed, I like Angus as well both black and red. I've always heard there was a lot of animosity amoungst some in the Hereford community. I guess I just don't understand why?
I can tell you why! OVER IDENTIFICATION.
Humans have a problem with that. Ever see a parent at a youth sporting event? Makes me ill. Saw a man in Montana disparage his son to the point the poor kid was crying and couldn't function because his dad was yelling obscenities at him for missing a soccer goal. You would have thought the father was out there playing and the kid disgraced him. That was a case of OVER IDENTIFICATION with his son.
People do it over their favorite sports teams. When Kentucky loses a basketball game, the whole state acts like there was a funeral!!
And yes, people over identify with the breed of cattle they have spent their career on.
Personally, I don't give a crap what breed I raise. I enjoy cattle. I enjoy animals. I could be just as happy with Angus.
And yet there you are with a bunch of Simmental cows, you poor misguided soul.
Margonme":1c5c3rr0 said:I disagree on the sports fanatics. It is more complicated. Fanaticism gets complicated.
Supa Dexta":1onyylkv said:People have herefords for the same reason few people still listen to vinyl records or watch vhs tapes. It was once the standard, but has fallen behind as others marched ahead.
Hereford76":u6yg45k0 said:now it's become an example of why everyone left.
Supa Dexta":1ux99h1g said:I'm not talking about a specific animal or sale. I mean the breed as a whole. If you think hereford hasn't fallen behind in market share and relevance, you better get to reading.
Strongly agree with Supa Dexta, bet you that many Hereford bulls went to Angus farms than to the Hereford farms. There's not much demand for straight Hereford steers here and they are slowly replaced by red Angus and Simmentals here.Dogs and Cows":2e35zbnc said:Supa Dexta":2e35zbnc said:People have herefords for the same reason few people still listen to vinyl records or watch vhs tapes. It was once the standard, but has fallen behind as others marched ahead.
DISAGREE
Bet ya, these Hereford bulls went to Angus ranches to producing black baldies.Bestoutwest":1c3zl7f0 said:Supa Dexta":1c3zl7f0 said:People have herefords for the same reason few people still listen to vinyl records or watch vhs tapes. It was once the standard, but has fallen behind as others marched ahead.
Then why am I seeing averages on Angus bulls at $5K a head and Herefords are pulling over $6K at the same sale?
Bestoutwest":38tw4z1u said:Supa Dexta":38tw4z1u said:People have herefords for the same reason few people still listen to vinyl records or watch vhs tapes. It was once the standard, but has fallen behind as others marched ahead.
Hereford76":314x3pzg said:now it's become an example of why everyone left.