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<blockquote data-quote="zendog" data-source="post: 528008" data-attributes="member: 6830"><p>Well, I am learning a lot. A couple more points and question and I will be gone and you folks can get back to serious dairy cattle talk with my deep appreciation and gratitude.</p><p></p><p>First, what I have learned most is that I am probably better off finding a beef cattle rancher and paying him to breed a beef cow to a Lowline Angus for me. I will get a better beef calf and the beef rancher will charge me no more than the dairyman would, even if I could find a dairyman to do it at all. Right?</p><p></p><p>First question… I note that Dun said:</p><p>"Some dairys breed to low BW bulls for the first calf, but those that do AI and know what they're looking for will use a Holstein or Jersey with proven calving ease. That eleiminates the throw away calf for first fresheners. Using lowline on a Holstein would basicly generate the equivilent of an oversized Dexter."</p><p></p><p>Well, that is pretty much exactly what I had in mind – A Dexter sized cow with some of the characteristics of a Lowline Angus. I would (at least one time) be willing to take the risk that I might get the worst characteristics of both. If a dairy farmer will occasionally choose to breed a Jersey, how much would he or she expect to get for that cow? If I were willing to pay more than that, wouldn't he or she be willing to breed with a Lowline Angus AI? That is really the question I originally wanted answered. Will the dairy farmer do it, and how will he or she charge me?</p><p></p><p>Cippie said:</p><p>"On the other hand, he can breed his cows with sexed semen and guarantee that he will get a heifer, or he can breed his cows to a good beef bull like an Angus and get smooth black heifers. … We have bred our cows for freezer beef to Brahman, Belgian Blue, Angus and the accidental Hereford."</p><p></p><p>Again this is what I am looking for. If he will breed to a full size Angus, wouldn't he breed to a Lowline Angus for the same money? How much is that?</p><p></p><p>My last question is just out of curiosity. If male dairy cattle are worth between $5 and $100, and female are worth a lot (nobody ever said how much), and sexed semen is available and easy to administer, why does any dairy farmer ever produce cheap bull cattle when it is easy to produce expensive cows?</p><p></p><p>Thanks again. You folks have been very patient with an ignorant outsider. I appreciate your help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zendog, post: 528008, member: 6830"] Well, I am learning a lot. A couple more points and question and I will be gone and you folks can get back to serious dairy cattle talk with my deep appreciation and gratitude. First, what I have learned most is that I am probably better off finding a beef cattle rancher and paying him to breed a beef cow to a Lowline Angus for me. I will get a better beef calf and the beef rancher will charge me no more than the dairyman would, even if I could find a dairyman to do it at all. Right? First question… I note that Dun said: “Some dairys breed to low BW bulls for the first calf, but those that do AI and know what they're looking for will use a Holstein or Jersey with proven calving ease. That eleiminates the throw away calf for first fresheners. Using lowline on a Holstein would basicly generate the equivilent of an oversized Dexter.” Well, that is pretty much exactly what I had in mind – A Dexter sized cow with some of the characteristics of a Lowline Angus. I would (at least one time) be willing to take the risk that I might get the worst characteristics of both. If a dairy farmer will occasionally choose to breed a Jersey, how much would he or she expect to get for that cow? If I were willing to pay more than that, wouldn’t he or she be willing to breed with a Lowline Angus AI? That is really the question I originally wanted answered. Will the dairy farmer do it, and how will he or she charge me? Cippie said: “On the other hand, he can breed his cows with sexed semen and guarantee that he will get a heifer, or he can breed his cows to a good beef bull like an Angus and get smooth black heifers. … We have bred our cows for freezer beef to Brahman, Belgian Blue, Angus and the accidental Hereford.” Again this is what I am looking for. If he will breed to a full size Angus, wouldn’t he breed to a Lowline Angus for the same money? How much is that? My last question is just out of curiosity. If male dairy cattle are worth between $5 and $100, and female are worth a lot (nobody ever said how much), and sexed semen is available and easy to administer, why does any dairy farmer ever produce cheap bull cattle when it is easy to produce expensive cows? Thanks again. You folks have been very patient with an ignorant outsider. I appreciate your help. [/QUOTE]
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