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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1768394" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>11 on the ground now, and one heifer! Figures! If I had told him I wanted to buy all of his bull calves, then he would have had 12 heifers! Even if the last one has a heifer calf this week, that won't be but two. When the mand fist started breeding his Brown swiss to Braunvieh, to get a little beefier bottle calf, he wanted a lot of steers, of course, But the cows had a majority heifers...that's where these came from that he bred to the Brahma bulls. I told him to ask his AI guy if that was sexed semen he used on these gals. Then again, most people cross with Brahma to get f1 cows, so seems like if it were sexed semen, it would be X semen for heifer calves. </p><p></p><p>Honestly, I don't see these heifers being any better than a Brahma x Braunvieh. Both Brahma and Braunvieh give plenty of milk for raising calves. I don't think it would be worth raising Brown Swiss x Braunvieh, just to get heifers to cross again with Brahma. Now, a situation like this...a Brown Swiss dairy that has used Braun bulls and had these BS x Braun crosses....yeah, that was a good move to breed those heifers to Brahma. </p><p></p><p>I don't think I will fool with these 1 or 2 heifers. I had told him I would buy them at weaning, and I assumed they would be 6 mos old. This week I found out he weans his bottle calves as soon as possible..like maybe 2 months old. Like most dairies do, I guess. This would mean getting them in Dec or Jan. 6-8 6 mos old heifers that I could send south or west made some sense. 1 or 2 two month old claves does not. Not for me, anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1768394, member: 40587"] 11 on the ground now, and one heifer! Figures! If I had told him I wanted to buy all of his bull calves, then he would have had 12 heifers! Even if the last one has a heifer calf this week, that won't be but two. When the mand fist started breeding his Brown swiss to Braunvieh, to get a little beefier bottle calf, he wanted a lot of steers, of course, But the cows had a majority heifers...that's where these came from that he bred to the Brahma bulls. I told him to ask his AI guy if that was sexed semen he used on these gals. Then again, most people cross with Brahma to get f1 cows, so seems like if it were sexed semen, it would be X semen for heifer calves. Honestly, I don't see these heifers being any better than a Brahma x Braunvieh. Both Brahma and Braunvieh give plenty of milk for raising calves. I don't think it would be worth raising Brown Swiss x Braunvieh, just to get heifers to cross again with Brahma. Now, a situation like this...a Brown Swiss dairy that has used Braun bulls and had these BS x Braun crosses....yeah, that was a good move to breed those heifers to Brahma. I don't think I will fool with these 1 or 2 heifers. I had told him I would buy them at weaning, and I assumed they would be 6 mos old. This week I found out he weans his bottle calves as soon as possible..like maybe 2 months old. Like most dairies do, I guess. This would mean getting them in Dec or Jan. 6-8 6 mos old heifers that I could send south or west made some sense. 1 or 2 two month old claves does not. Not for me, anyway. [/QUOTE]
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