Brahman influence......

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A. delaGarza

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In my personal opinion and I have use Brahman and Nelore bloods in my Simbrah, Canchim (Charbray) and Brahmousin herds, I have seen better growth rates with Nelore influence crosses, most of my so call Brahman influence herd or composites is 5/8 Continental-2/8 Nelore-1/4 Brahman.

I invite all breeders that are using Brahman influence cattle to use some Nelore blood in their mix and prove that what I had proven for my self years ago is truth.

these is taken from the Nelore breed page of http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle

In a recent research done by the U.S. Meat Animal Research Center in Nebraska, the Nelore F1s showed the largest percentage of unassisted calving, the highest weaning percentage, and their offspring calves were 2nd in 200-day weaning weight of the 11 breeds evaluated. These results combined placed the Nelore F1s as the most productive dams, with an impressive 115.0 ratio.


U.S. MEAT ANIMAL RESEARCH CENTER - Clay Center, Nebraska
GERM PLASM EVALUATION PROGRAM - Cycle IV, Phase 3. Calves born 1988-89*
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Breed group Number of % Calving Birth % Calves 200 day lb weaned per Ratio %
of dam cows unassisted weight, lb weaned weight, lb 100 cows
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Original HAx 74 67.6 75.6 83 458.3 38,039 91.6
Current HAx 78 68.9 80.2 89 487.5 43,388 104.4
Charolais 60 72.9 83.0 76 498.7 37,901 91.2
Gelbvieh 68 70.7 78.7 79 507.7 40,108 96.5
Pinzgauer 72 64.0 82.4 81 508.1 41,156 99.1
Shorthorn 43 75.2 84.0 85 512.6 43,571 104.9
Galloway 67 74.9 74.1 80 449.2 35,936 86.5
Longhorn 70 86.0 74.9 89 464.2 41,314 99.4
Nelore 69 95.1 70.7 93 513.5 47,756 115.0
Piedmontese 78 64.6 79.2 88 491.9 43,287 104.2
Salers 58 85.7 82.5 85 523.9 44,532 107.2
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* Data are for 560 F1 females exposed to Red Poll bulls to produce first calves at 2 years of age and for 312 F1 females exposed to Simmental bulls to produce their second calves at 3 years of age.
 
delaGarza,
Have you tried Saler/Nelore ? I run a group of Saler/Angus and they are my favorite.
 
Ollie":32mkms7f said:
delaGarza,
Have you tried Saler/Nelore ? I run a group of Saler/Angus and they are my favorite.

we tried Saler x Nelore-Shorthorn in the late 70's when we began raising Santa Gertrudis cattle, but we had never cross Nelore with Salers directly because we use to have only Salers bulls to improve our commercial herds. Our Nelore females were use only and exclusively to raise our Fullblood herd. Maybe you could A.I. some of your Salers or Angus cows and than cross them to the opposite breed, your Salers-Nelores to Angus and your Angus-Nelore to Salers
 
Where did you get your Brahmousin? Did you start your own or did you purchase some and go from there? We raise Brahmousin here in Oklahoma. They make awesome mothers and are great in our nasty winters.
 
brahman gurl":luoaa6gs said:
Where did you get your Brahmousin? Did you start your own or did you purchase some and go from there? We raise Brahmousin here in Oklahoma. They make awesome mothers and are great in our nasty winters.

I start years ago with 10 heifers 1/2 Limousin-1/2 Brahman that I bought and cross them to a Nelore bull and the resulting males 3/4 Bos Indicus(2/4 Nelore-1/4 Brahman)- 1/4 Limousin were cross to purebreds Limousin cows and I have my first purebred Brahmousin. Even my Brahmousin herd is not to large, I'm more of a Simbrah man, I like Brahmousin and Bulls are beganing to have demand in South Mexico where Brahman influence is needed.
 
Have you ever thought about registering them with the American Brahmousin Council? Our office is located in Crockett, Tx.
 

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