Brahman color question.

[bubchub]

I went and looked at some Brahman show heifers and the people had dark red heifers and light reddy/gray heifers. The ag teachers and I thought a reddy/gray was the best put together heifer there. The grayish one is $2250 and one of the dark reds is $2750. The owner, who I have bought bulls from, said that the grayish one was just as good and would show just as good, but the dark red is sought after more and that is why it's higher. THe man said if he was in Houston the heifers would not go for less than $4000.


Are the reddy/grays culls or bad cows?I thought y'all could maybe give me your opinion of the situation.

 

[MikeC]

THe man said if he was in Houston the heifers would not go for less than $4000.

Good BS line! I'll have to remember that one. :lol:

 

[Tod Dague]

THe man said if he was in Houston the heifers would not go for less than $4000.

Good BS line! I'll have to remember that one. :lol:

:lol: You figure for an extra 3 grand between the two it would be worth the shipping. To get the BS really flowing just ask him why he isn't taking them there.

 

[BRATUS]

In my search to buy Brahman cattle I've visited several of major ranches within the breed, and I have found that the gray heifers are the same price as the reds.
Why in Houston the rancher thinks he could get more is beyond me, unless he/she was thinking on selling at the livestock show in the spring?Paying 4000 would mean some of the top genetics.

 

[bubchub]

I know he is trying to sell me but I also know he has good show cattle. He goes to Houston alot and shows so I guess he would sell the heifers. He had one heifer that he wants $5000 for and she's just 8 mo. old.

Here is his site.
http://www.mckenneyfarms.com

 

[Proverbs 12:10]

bub, color does affect the price from my experience. I know a couple of guys that sell heifers with good conformation but have a lighter red color that go for around $1500 while the deep red with good stucture may go for $2000 and up. PM me if you want more info.

 

[bubchub]

Do reddy/gray calves not do as well at the shows compared to dark red or gray heifers?

 

[J. T.]

I know he is trying to sell me but I also know he has good show cattle. He goes to Houston alot and shows so I guess he would sell the heifers. He had one heifer that he wants $5000 for and she's just 8 mo. old.

Here is his site.
http://www.mckenneyfarms.com

I have calves that I want $5000.00 for also. I want get it, but i want it! ;-)

 

[BRATUS]

Oh McKenney farms. That is one of the popular ranches for red Brahmans. I was told I could get Gir cattle there so I called to inquire on prices and was told it prices start at 3000. I guess I get what I pay for. Quality does cost so I've told.

 

[Proverbs 12:10]

Deep red color is desirable and preferred. However, heritage/genetics and conformation/structure will need to be taken into account as well. One of other problems with red brahmans is that there aren't as many as the grey and that will sometimes drive prices up.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Do reddy/gray calves not do as well at the shows compared to dark red or gray heifers?

Sounds like before you go shopping you need to do a little research.

Anyone that would give 4 to 5000 dollars for a brammer calf has fell and hit his head. I don't care if was brought over by Shanghi Pierce.

 

[bubchub]

Do reddy/gray calves not do as well at the shows compared to dark red or gray heifers?

Sounds like before you go shopping you need to do a little research.

Anyone that would give 4 to 5000 dollars for a brammer calf has fell and hit his head. I don't care if was brought over by Shanghi Pierce.

THat's what I brought ag teachers for. THey say they should show just as well. But my question is, if they show just as good why the price difference?

 

[*Cowgirl*]

Do reddy/gray calves not do as well at the shows compared to dark red or gray heifers?

Sounds like before you go shopping you need to do a little research.

Anyone that would give 4 to 5000 dollars for a brammer calf has fell and hit his head. I don't care if was brought over by Shanghi Pierce.

AMEN Caustic

 

[Brandonm2]

Do reddy/gray calves not do as well at the shows compared to dark red or gray heifers?

Sounds like before you go shopping you need to do a little research.

Anyone that would give 4 to 5000 dollars for a brammer calf has fell and hit his head. I don't care if was brought over by Shanghi Pierce.

Agreed! I don't own and have never owned any straightbred Brahman calves; but at $5000 a head I can go find them a whole potbelly trailer load!!

 

[DOC HARRIS]

THat's what I brought ag teachers for. THey say they should show just as well. But my question is, if they show just as good why the price difference?

bub-Your question presupposes or postulates that "beef cattle" prices are established or based on "...How THEY show" ONLY! If that is your interpretation of the entire beef cattle business, you need to inquire more thoroughly into "Beef Cattle Management" classes, and put your two Ag teacher friends to work explaining the facts of - "Beef Cattle Life" to you. You may be interested in "Showing" only, but price is deteremined by a lot more factors than just whether or not an animal is one color or another and whether they "show" well or not. To be a success you must be able to know the difference.

DOC HARRIS

 

[bubchub]

I think I asked my question wrong and that is why y'all think I don't know anything about the cattle business.

My question was supposed to be: Will a dark red heifer or solid gray heifer show better than a reddy/gray mixed color heifer?

I am asking this question as all the heifers have pretty much the same bloodilens, comformation, age, but they are different in color.

 

[DOC HARRIS]

I think I asked my question wrong and that is why y'all think I don't know anything about the cattle business.

My question was supposed to be: Will a dark red heifer or solid gray heifer show better than a reddy/gray mixed color heifer?

I am asking this question as all the heifers have pretty much the same bloodilens, comformation, age, but they are different in color.

Oh - I see. - - - To answer your question on the basis of EXACTLY what you asked - - - Probably.

DOC HARRIS

 

[dun]

I think I asked my question wrong and that is why y'all think I don't know anything about the cattle business.

My question was supposed to be: Will a dark red heifer or solid gray heifer show better than a reddy/gray mixed color heifer?

I am asking this question as all the heifers have pretty much the same bloodilens, comformation, age, but they are different in color.

Oh - I see. - - - To answer your question on the basis of EXACTLY what you asked - - - Probably.

DOC HARRIS

You neglected to include, sometimes maybe

dun

 

[TxCoUnTrYbOy]

I think a lot of it depends on the judge mostly. Some dont like the mixed colors, only deep solid color. Also, if there are 2 animals in a class that the judge is having trouble picking, most likely he will then look at the coloring.

 

[Beefy]

My question was supposed to be: Will a dark red heifer or solid gray heifer show better than a reddy/gray mixed color heifer?

if i knew anything about showing brahmans i would guess yes!