Bottle Calves - Little Calves - Big Profits

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I found this online while researching bottle calves... Does anyone agree with this article or disagree and what's your reasoning for your opinion?

http://www.homestead.org/AllenaJackson/ ... alves2.htm

You will have the cost of $65 per calf, about $106 for processing, $160 for grain/hay for a final profit of $630 per calf, or $5000 for all eight calves. You will have to find buyers. One farmer goes to farmer's markets and hands out fliers to interested people. Many farmers report being able to easily sell all the meat they raise at premium prices. People are interested in eating pasture raised meat, and will pay a good price for pasture raised veal. Pasture raised veal is a great alternative for a small farm because you can raise the calves year round, feeding goat's milk, hay and grain and turn over a good profit in 12 - 16 weeks time. That's a gross income of over $1000 per month, taking care of eight calves.

The interesting thing about raising Jersey and Holstein fall calves is that both breeds do better than traditional beef on a pasture fed diet, supplemented with grain, or just pasture. They can be fed on winter rye grass, for a very low investment, and sold later in the year when prices are higher. If you have a larger farm, you can raise a variety of dairy beef ages, and sell as you like for profit. So with grain prices at an all time high, the idea of converting dairy calves into feeder steers is appealing. If you can raise your calves mostly on pasture, such as rye grass or available pasture, and have a feeder steer by late spring/early summer, then you are looking at a selling price of approximately $650 to $910 at peak prices. The bottom line there is how much each individual farm will have to spend to provide pasture for their weaned bottle calves.



Using the natural market fluctuations can easily give you a better profit margin, although like all investments, there is some risk. The markets can and do fall, but if you can provide your calves with pasture, you can probably wait out the lows and get a better price. Dairy beef grows a little more effectively on a pasture based diet, with some feed supplementation and can give a similar yield to that of traditional beef breeds. Grass or pasture generally costs less to provide, especially if you can plant a winter crop, such as rye grass or cut your own hay. Although dairy beef does not flourish or do well in the feedlot environment, it does excellent on pasture raised programs. The smaller operation can better provide this kind of environment to raise up their dairy beef calves to nice feeder calves.

My personal philosophy is why step over a dollar to pick up a dime? If you can make about $119 for your weaned calf, $630 for pastured veal and $400 - $700 for pastured feeder calves, then I would want to look at how much you can sell a finished beef. Dairy beef does not have the high amount of trimmable fat, so it has a harder time in the big marketplace. I don't need to tell many of you, that our markets are entirely different. Thousands of small farms are making good profits on pasture raising beef, turkeys, pigs and all other types of animals traditionally raised in confinement. We know already that pasture raised meat is healthier, cheaper (for us) to raise and yields higher profit.

With dairy beef, you have a much better chance at a prime animal, but Jerseys will be smaller, weighing out at a finished size of about 800-1000 pounds. Raised on pasture, with their grain supplimented, they can give you a finely marbled and higher quality prime animal, on less feed, less medications and less time investment. So if you can raise a better product, it stands to reason you can charge more for it. Every person I personally know, that pasture raises any meat, can find a buyer for it in no time. I recently pasture raised 100 chickens, and had people lined up to get a share of them. Others tell the same story. My question for anyone mildly interested in dairy calves, is if you have pasture available, why not keep your theoretical 8 calves, and finish them out if you can? After taking it to the processor, you can easily turn that $130 per hundred weight into three to 7 times the cash with individual cuts of meat.



A local farmer in my area raises pastured chickens, and goes to farmers markets, just to hand out fliers. He reports that he always sells out. People marketing beef, lamb, pork and turkeys also report the same findings. People are tired of eating chemicals, hormones and garbage in their food. Even if you aren't organic certified, you can get people to buy your beef from you. Either already processed, or on the hoof. Your profit range is going to look more like $800 - $1200 for dairy beef on the hoof at a peak auction price. (That is providing a $10 per week grain budget, but assumes a free pasture/hay budget. This would change if you had to buy hay) As a pasture raised animal, you can get as much as twice that in some areas, and just load it up and take it to the processor for your customer. That is an over all profit possibility of $3900 or more per beef, but you will have to market your product. Your 8 calves can earn as much as $31,000 if you can take the time to market them and deliver them to the processor for your customer.

But, we should at least look at the idea of selling the cuts ourselves, since we've gone this far. Researching I found pasture raised rib eye steaks were being sold for as much as $34 a POUND! I do not need to show you the dollars, that are flying into the pockets of other producers. Obviously there are costs, locally it costs $.89 per pound to process a beef, so you can cut $1200 or so off your profit. But with prices for ground beef yielding $7 a pound, I don't need to tell you it bears looking into. You will have to store the beef in a deep freeze and be prepared to pay for the power to run it, and maintenance on it, and the building it is in. One dairy beef should give you from 500 to 700 pounds of meat, ranging in cuts, that are priced from $7 a pound up to $34 a pound. Even at a rather modest $10 per pound, you just upped your profits to $ 7000 per calf, minus $600 for feed/care, and also another $1000 for processing. So, you could get $5400 per calf. You can take another $1000 off for running a freezer for a full year. So we have $4400 left, at the modest prices I found pasture beef being sold for in my local area. $4400 per calf that we started out on goats milk. So, at the end of our growth season, you could have an profit potential of $35,000 on your original 8 calves.

Of course this is somewhat of an ideological presentation, there are hidden costs, and more overhead that I am probably missing. There are no vet bills factored and probably expenses missing. But there is definitely a market, and it bears looking at. Really you can't tell what it's going to cost, until you look at your local markets and prices. Corn here is about $14 a hundred, it could be more, or less elsewhere. The prices and speculations here are based on a middle range of prices and profits for all of these ventures.



Bottle calves can give you a great profit margin, especially if you consider raising them with alternative/less expensive methods. You can easily raise some pasture if you have land, and provided you have a tractor, you can rent a no disk planter and plant winter rye or wheat to feed your calves on over the winter. You can market your beef as weaned calves, pastured veal, feeder calves, finished steers, or steaks already packaged up and ready for the grill. The options are vast, and dairy calves are easy and cheap to buy. In some areas, farmers are literally giving them away, I found them online for as little as $10 a calf! There is a great chance that you could find a local dairy, and buy a few calves, raise them up and try some of these ideas and make a good profit. Until you look at your own area's prices there is no way to really know the profit potential. One thing is for sure, dairy beef is an intriguing and growing business, and I think we will see a lot more of it at the local market.
 
greybeard":3jx60aya said:
It's an archived article--and only the 2nd page of it.
Page 1:
http://www.homestead.org/AllenaJackson/ ... Calves.htm

They bought the calves for $50, had plenty of goats milk to feed them and stated some places were nearly giving the calves away. I wonder how old that article really is?

Yea I was wondering about the age as well. I saw that. A local dairy told me they will sell me bottle calves for 25 bucks each if I can take 15 at a time. I haven't said yay or nay yet. I know its work but don't see losing money on the deal. Whats your opinion on it GB?
 
Steins need a lot of energy. A few folks feed them out to harvest, but mostly jockeys here buy couple month old calves and push them on silage or byproduct. Then they re sell 1000# framy steers by the pot load to feedlots who specialize in them.
 
What my plan was is to bottle feed for a couple months then keep them till they are about 5-6wts then take the load to the barn and see how they do.
 
It's hard to take seriously any article that mentions several times how dairy cattle "do better on pasture than beef breeds". Based off of that and his/her imaginary numbers, I can't help but wonder if the author has any experience at all. I can say from my experience that no way/no how can a person make $35k profit from raising 8 bottle calves.

I forgot mention, I did exactly what you plan to do. Fed MR for 10 weeks I think, weaned them over to grass/hay and a little calf starter, then kicked them out with the cows. Since I had so little in them, I did make a bit of a profit. In no way were they ready to be butchered at 1 year old (as suggested in the article) when I sold them. They weighed 550-600 lbs. These were angus/dairy crosses. It was still a fun project that'll I'll probably do again now that my boys are at the age they would enjoy it. But the numbers theorized in the article are fantasy, in my opinion.
 
M.Magis":rflucsfb said:
It's hard to take seriously any article that mentions several times how dairy cattle "do better on pasture than beef breeds". Based off of that and his/her imaginary numbers, I can't help but wonder if the author has any experience at all. I can say from my experience that no way/no how can a person make $35k profit from raising 8 bottle calves.

I forgot mention, I did exactly what you plan to do. Fed MR for 10 weeks I think, weaned them over to grass/hay and a little calf starter, then kicked them out with the cows. Since I had so little in them, I did make a bit of a profit. In no way were they ready to be butchered at 1 year old (as suggested in the article) when I sold them. They weighed 550-600 lbs. These were angus/dairy crosses. It was still a fun project that'll I'll probably do again now that my boys are at the age they would enjoy it. But the numbers theorized in the article are fantasy, in my opinion.

I agree about the numbers whole heartedly. I do believe if you take the time to bottle feed and have good grass and grain and use calf starter you should make a good little profit. IMO These calves I am going to be getting are straight holsteins. I even looked at potentially building a facility to house maybe 40-50 at a time depending on what results I get after the first batch.
 
Deepsouth":3luezygx said:
slick4591":3luezygx said:
At that price I would think you would make some money. Went to the sale last Monday and several bottle calves went for $350+.

I'm at the sale right now watching bottle calves sale for 400+.

Wow thats crazy. If they were 400 bucks no way in the world would I fool with them.
 
skyhightree1 A local dairy told me they will sell me bottle calves for 25 bucks each if I can take 15 at a time. I haven't said yay or nay yet.[/quote said:
Deepsouth":3j2ez8xy said:
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I'm at the sale right now watching bottle calves sale for 400+.

There is how you make money on them. Buy 15 at $25 each. Haul them to where Deepsouth is and sell them for $400. That is $5,625 minus fuel cost. Heck those baby calves you can probably put 30 in the trailer and double your profit.
 
Dave":inpv6mxa said:
skyhightree1 A local dairy told me they will sell me bottle calves for 25 bucks each if I can take 15 at a time. I haven't said yay or nay yet.[/quote:inpv6mxa said:
Deepsouth":inpv6mxa said:
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I'm at the sale right now watching bottle calves sale for 400+.

There is how you make money on them. Buy 15 at $25 each. Haul them to where Deepsouth is and sell them for $400. That is $5,625 minus fuel cost. Heck those baby calves you can probably put 30 in the trailer and double your profit.

You aint joking
 
That's crazy money Deepsouth.

However I was told yesterday that I may have a chance to sell my registered heifers right off the cows for $1700. If that happens they are gone, registered or not.
 
Other factors

death loss.
cost of milk or milk replacer
labor during the bottle phase...
medical costs as there will be some sickness
I have not heard of $25.oo calves in a looong time....
I hate fooling with bottle calves in general....raised far too many orphans.....
if you can get them started on a good nurse cow it is a lot easier.....I once had a half Holstein half angus cow who could raise four at a time...hers and three orphans....but she was eating 5 gallons of feed a day plus pasture....I started out keeping the calves in the barn and letting her in twice a day....eventually turned them all out when all the calves were big enough to compete for a spigot.
 
Pdf thats true even with milk replacer costs you can still come out ahead I think.. The labor and having to deal with sickness etc is the PITA.
 
If you can sell those bull calves at the sale barn for 300.00 plus, then why are the dairy farms NOT taken them to the sale barn?
 
K5PWB":2n1t1knv said:
If you can sell those bull calves at the sale barn for 300.00 plus, then why are the dairy farms NOT taken them to the sale barn?

If I understand your question. Some just would rather not deal with them at all.
 
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