novaman":2e5zxbdt said:You feeling threatened there Frankie? :lol:
HEREFORD ROADHOG":g34v83br said:In my book the Black Or Red Charlois should be listed under CROSSBREED. just like Black Herefords,Black Simmentals, Black Shorthorns or any other PRUEBRED variety that is not pureblooded. :???: What really gets me is all the "certified Angus beef" that everyone sells.Just because it came out of a black cow dosen't make it Angus.
Their are well documented cases of red Charolais calves out of what would be considered white parents. Are these calves not still purebred?
Also all certified beef programs actively encourage the use of a particular breeds bulls in a crossbreeding situation as a way to market bulls. When the Angus breed markets calves out of Angus bulls as certified Angus beef all is right with the world. The problem is that lately any black hided critter is used in the program-hurting the integrity of the program. How does it hurt the integrity of the program if it meets ALL the predetermined specifications of the PROGRAM
In the instance of the red and black Charolais a demand developed for red and black bulls because they put Charolais performance in a non color diluting package. In the area these cattle were developed the Charolais breed is the established breed. Raising red and black Charolais let new breeders differentiate themselves in the market and get attention in the marketplace. Lately the market for these cattle has been saturated with average prices received at bull sales ensuring the number that will be raised in the future (particularly blacks).
VLS_GUY":55jckrmz said:How does using cattle that do not have any Angus in them hurt the integrity of CAB? Simple. The implication from CAB advertising is that the beef comes from Angus and Angus cross cattle. If you force the consumer to read the fine print to find the loop holes that allow other cattle into the program then the consumers expectations on the origin of the product are not being met. On that issue CAB is sitting on a time bomb. Consumers want to know where their food is coming from as it ties into food safety. If you are up front about the type of cattle being used what about other aspects of the beef production process?