Ollie":23lwqrpe said:Usually biger pelvis area cows are also wide butted at least. I can't think when heavier muscled cows were harder calving. Actually it seems the opposite. Your lighter muscled cows usually have closer pin bones which dosen't relate to actual pelvis opening but does affect calving difficulty.
Beefy":1gla34i6 said:Ive had to pull the most calves from Limousin or Charolais cattle. And most of the calves pulled tended to be limousin. and most of those calves were stuck at the hips. granted, most of these were heifers or second calvers and not mature cows.
I have a friend who raises purebred limousin and swears by them. as an experiment one year he decided to crossbreed his heifers to a piedmontese bull and they had to pull every single calf. the exact word he used was "disaster." i think any idiot should know not to breed two double muscled breeds together though, thats just asking for trouble and beating a dead horse.
in my opinion, continental bulls have their place as terminal sires with the exception of maybe simmental. I'll stick to my moderate framed american and british breeds for my brood cows and if i need some extra length and muscling i'll get a terminal sire. and when i do it will be charolais or simmental, not limousin.