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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 709176" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>A lot of good points brought up here. Especially the water. I didn't follow all the details but is there a significant difference in the water between these two places? Or method/distance of watering them?</p><p></p><p>I think availability of water is one of the unsung factors. I see it myself. When my cows are in a paddock at a distance from water they tend to go get a drink just a few times a day. When they are in the paddock right next to the waterer it seems like they are getting drinks more often.</p><p></p><p>As Jo points out, the other likely candidate is the soils. I would soil test both places and compare the results.</p><p></p><p>Another thing to look at are there different levels of compaction in these fields? That will affect the growth and maybe the composition of the grass etc growing on top and maybe in a way that is not readily visible.</p><p></p><p>I think two very important tools on any farm are a soil test probe and a soil compaction probe. You can take soils samples with a shovel but they are not as true as ones taken with a cylindrical probe.</p><p></p><p>Here is a page of different soil probes. <a href="http://www.gemplers.com/category.aspx?cat=soil-sampling-tools&s_kwcid=TC|4086|soil%20probe||S|b|3012853075" target="_blank">http://www.gemplers.com/category.aspx?cat=soil-sampling-tools&s_kwcid=TC|4086|soil probe||S|b|3012853075</a> I like the step in one with the tab on the bottom. Very easy and fast to use and gets good samples.</p><p></p><p>You can also usually borrow one from your county extension office at no charge. Oakfield also makes a simple soil compaction probe.</p><p></p><p>Interesting to know if there is a real difference and why.</p><p></p><p>Jim</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 709176, member: 7509"] A lot of good points brought up here. Especially the water. I didn't follow all the details but is there a significant difference in the water between these two places? Or method/distance of watering them? I think availability of water is one of the unsung factors. I see it myself. When my cows are in a paddock at a distance from water they tend to go get a drink just a few times a day. When they are in the paddock right next to the waterer it seems like they are getting drinks more often. As Jo points out, the other likely candidate is the soils. I would soil test both places and compare the results. Another thing to look at are there different levels of compaction in these fields? That will affect the growth and maybe the composition of the grass etc growing on top and maybe in a way that is not readily visible. I think two very important tools on any farm are a soil test probe and a soil compaction probe. You can take soils samples with a shovel but they are not as true as ones taken with a cylindrical probe. Here is a page of different soil probes. [url]http://www.gemplers.com/category.aspx?cat=soil-sampling-tools&s_kwcid=TC|4086|soil%20probe||S|b|3012853075[/url] I like the step in one with the tab on the bottom. Very easy and fast to use and gets good samples. You can also usually borrow one from your county extension office at no charge. Oakfield also makes a simple soil compaction probe. Interesting to know if there is a real difference and why. Jim [/QUOTE]
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