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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1437402" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>Wacocowboy gave you a couple of really good examples. We do some cattle trading although we are basically a cow/calf operation. But I do buy some older cows, sometimes breds and some with calves by their sides. I try to stay in the $1000 range as I can sell the calf for around 500 and the cull cow for the same on years when prices aren't very good... but because we often will have some land with grass, can usually put some pounds on the cow and make a bit on her and the calf. IT IS ALWAYS A GAMBLE. </p><p> Have bought some 4-5 wt bulls and banded and sold as 6 wt feeders and made a little. Sometimes keep more of our heifers than we are going to retain as replacements and feed a little heavier than the usual 4-5 wt weaned size and then just watch the markets and sell when we need to move them off grass or the market takes an uptick.</p><p> Will not get into feeding any bulls, too much possible problems with fences and seldom if ever see a thin bull here, most are sold as getting too big or been there for too many years, and the farmer has to find a new bull. We have about 10 bulls of our own at any one time and they are all GOOD bulls as far as being what we want for breeding and will not bring in anything else to risk any injury or problem with fences or attitudes with people. But it could work in the right situation if there are thin bulls to be had. I would think it would be a better deal for someone VERY experienced with cattle.</p><p>Feeder prices fall off here after the middle of june most of the time, so waiting until the "rush to get feeder cattle" is over will often get you some fairer priced animals to run. </p><p> If you don't have to worry about neighbor bulls, heifers are usually a bit cheaper and will usually bring near per pound what you paid so the added pounds they put on will be gain. That is why we have started keeping some of our heifers that we really don't plan on breeding, they will bring close to the same price per pound at 400 that they will bring at 6-700. Let someone else do the breeding etc because the replacement market here is not all that great. I can sell an open 7-800 lb heifer and not have to breed her and feed her for another 6 months to sell as a bred for only a couple hundred more. But different conditions different places.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1437402, member: 25884"] Wacocowboy gave you a couple of really good examples. We do some cattle trading although we are basically a cow/calf operation. But I do buy some older cows, sometimes breds and some with calves by their sides. I try to stay in the $1000 range as I can sell the calf for around 500 and the cull cow for the same on years when prices aren't very good... but because we often will have some land with grass, can usually put some pounds on the cow and make a bit on her and the calf. IT IS ALWAYS A GAMBLE. Have bought some 4-5 wt bulls and banded and sold as 6 wt feeders and made a little. Sometimes keep more of our heifers than we are going to retain as replacements and feed a little heavier than the usual 4-5 wt weaned size and then just watch the markets and sell when we need to move them off grass or the market takes an uptick. Will not get into feeding any bulls, too much possible problems with fences and seldom if ever see a thin bull here, most are sold as getting too big or been there for too many years, and the farmer has to find a new bull. We have about 10 bulls of our own at any one time and they are all GOOD bulls as far as being what we want for breeding and will not bring in anything else to risk any injury or problem with fences or attitudes with people. But it could work in the right situation if there are thin bulls to be had. I would think it would be a better deal for someone VERY experienced with cattle. Feeder prices fall off here after the middle of june most of the time, so waiting until the "rush to get feeder cattle" is over will often get you some fairer priced animals to run. If you don't have to worry about neighbor bulls, heifers are usually a bit cheaper and will usually bring near per pound what you paid so the added pounds they put on will be gain. That is why we have started keeping some of our heifers that we really don't plan on breeding, they will bring close to the same price per pound at 400 that they will bring at 6-700. Let someone else do the breeding etc because the replacement market here is not all that great. I can sell an open 7-800 lb heifer and not have to breed her and feed her for another 6 months to sell as a bred for only a couple hundred more. But different conditions different places. [/QUOTE]
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