Beefmaster Angus Cross

[Brute 23]

The only reason to cross a Beemaster to a Black Angus would be because your market values black calves. If that is the case you should go to a Black Angus again to maintain the black hide.

 

[Warren Allison]

How are the calves of beefmaster cows with Angus bulls? Color of the calves? Alota ear? Horns?

If you are using a purebred black angus bull, homozygous for black and polled, then the color can be nothing but black, and the calves will be polled. Beefmaster would be 50% Brahma, same as an F1 Braford, the best cow there is to cross with Angus. They'd just be 25% Hereford and 25% short horn, vs 50% Hereford. I'd say those terminal calves would perform as well as an angus x F1 Braford, and would probably be hard to tell them apart.

 

[anewcomer]

BamaCowboy, would you mind telling us where you get your bulls from?

 

[greybeard]

BamaCowboy, would you mind telling us where you get your bulls from?

He hasn't been around in a while.... 12 years ago.
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BamaCowboy

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[kenny thomas]

He hasn't been around in a while.... 12 years ago.
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BamaCowboy

Well-known member · 71 · From Reform,Alabama
Joined Aug 30, 2008
Last seen Oct 15, 2009

Greybeard, do you know if something happened to bigbull338?
I talk to Red Bull Breeder often.

 

[greybeard]

Greybeard, do you know if something happened to bigbull338?
I talk to Red Bull Breeder often.

I do not know. I do know he and someone else got crossways a few years ago, but seems like I saw him post after that minor little squabble.
Last I remember, he was doing seedstock then wanted to get more into show calves, but that's been awhile ago.

 

[kenny thomas]

I do not know. I do know he and someone else got crossways a few years ago, but seems like I saw him post after that minor little squabble.
Last I remember, he was doing seedstock then wanted to get more into show calves, but that's been awhile ago.

Just hope something hasn't happened to him

 

[Anchor A]

We raise many Beefmaster x Angus cross cattle every year. I have discussed this on the forum before. The beefmaster x angus cross works great in both directions. The replacement females are exceptional/second to none. The first cross bulls work great too, granted not all first cross beefmaster x angus bulls work consistently. It has taken us many generations to get our first cross bulls to produce consistent, desireable offspring. The offspring are more moderate framed, therefore requiring less feed intake. I have spoken to Christine Guidry at GeneStar regarding GeneStars data on Bos indicus influenced cattle. Bos Indicus alone is -3.626FEGPD. GeneStar reports the national average for Bos indicus influenced cattle to be -3.54lbs FEGPD. The FEGPD for English cattle is -2.95lbs. At a time when the cost of feed is continuing to increase, breeding angus cows to beefmaster bulls or vice versa is in my opinion, a great idea. On another note, Dr. Tommy Perkins of Missouri State University has scan data supporting this cross. The data concludes that by crossing the beefmaster with an angus, the IMF% increases as well as the REA/cwt. Many times when breeders try to increase IMF% in their cattle, the REA/cwt decrease and vice-versa. For some reason this doesn't occur with the beefmaster x angus cross.

The beefmaster x angus cross is an exceptional cross. I believe they look like a beefmaster x angus cross, not a brangus, not an angus with ears. If you want to see a few hundred of em to decide for yourself, let me know. We would love to show em to ya.

Do u have any pictures

 

[Brute 23]

Do u have any pictures

They haven't been around since 2008. Hopefully some one else has some. I have seen BM x Brangus. I've seen Red Angus x BM.

I'm trying to move my family to Red Angus x BM. From what I have seen they still have the BM look, as said above, just cleaner. If the do have white it cleans a lot of white up.

 

[Lucky_P]

Went to a couple of West KY/TN select heifer sales at Guthrie, with my neighbor, about 4-5 years ago.
Several groups of black AngusXBeefmaster heifers came through, and they were, to me, the prettiest heifers that sold...almost enticed me into buying some Beefmaster semen to put into some of my higher % Angus cows.

 

[alacowman1]

heifer Ive kept out of beefmaster/angus cow..not a great picture..will calve this coming spring..but she looks identical to her momma at that age

 

[Warren Allison]

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heifer Ive kept out of beefmaster/angus cow..not a great picture..will calve this coming spring..but she looks identical to her momma at that age

I'd be proud to have a pasture full like this. What was her sire? And what is she bred to?

 

[Travlr]

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heifer Ive kept out of beefmaster/angus cow..not a great picture..will calve this coming spring..but she looks identical to her momma at that age

D**n nice... A hundred calves out of a hundred heifers like that would pay for the ranch pretty quick.

 

[alacowman1]

I'd be proud to have a pasture full like this. What was her sire? And what is she bred to?

Her sire was an Occ unlimited son..shes bred too Thomas up river son

 

[Brute 23]

Very nice heifer @alacowman1

 

[alacowman1]

Very nice heifer @alacowman1

thanks

 

[C-Ranch]

I know this is an older thread, but recently I have been intrigued and want to try a BM bull on my Red & Black Angus cows and replacement heifers. I have read a lot about the advantages that can come from the cross, as many members here have stated as well. My only concern is I spend a long time getting rid of horns and haven't had to dehorn a calf in ages. However, most purebred BM bulls that I have access to have horns. Even if the cows are polled won't I start having a percentage of calves with horns?

 

[kenny thomas]

I know this is an older thread, but recently I have been intrigued and want to try a BM bull on my Red & Black Angus cows and replacement heifers. I have read a lot about the advantages that can come from the cross, as many members here have stated as well. My only concern is I spend a long time getting rid of horns and haven't had to dehorn a calf in ages. However, most purebred BM bulls that I have access to have horns. Even if the cows are polled won't I start having a percentage of calves with horns?

If they are truly polled they shouldnt get horned calves.

 

[C-Ranch]

If they are truly polled they shouldnt get horned calves.

Is that because the polled gene is dominant to a horned gene from another animal or am I thinking wrong? I'm assuming the cows in the herd now are all homozygous polled since I haven't had any offspring with horns or scurs in over 10yrs. I have heard there are polled BM out there just haven't found any within a 200 miles radius.

 

[kenny thomas]

Is that because the polled gene is dominant to a horned gene from another animal or am I thinking wrong? I'm assuming the cows in the herd now are all homozygous polled since I haven't had any offspring with horns or scurs in over 10yrs. I have heard there are polled BM out there just haven't found any within a 200 miles radius.

Yes but you need more advice about the beefmasters. Caustic or someone can tell you more. They discuss a horned gene that doesn't follow the rules but im not sure the BM has any of that gene. But for years we usrd Horned Herefords on our cows.