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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 5674"><p>A couple of other thoughts.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes a young bull is a little more difficult to get a good semen sample from than it is from an older bull. This info is from my vet. We raise Murray Greys, and more than once the vet has had to take a second sample from an 11 to 13 month old MG bull and that sample will be excellent. For some reason the first sample with a young bull is sometimes very diluted.</p><p></p><p>If the vet didn't sample the bull a second time during this exam, the bull needs to be sampled again. On rare occasion, the problem is with the vet. An impatient vet can come up with a poor sample.</p><p></p><p>My other thought is for you to look back and think about what was happening to that bull a couple of months ago. That's when he was manufacturing the sperm you are sampling today. Was he especially stressed or mal nourished or exposed to extreme cold? More frequently, what happens in a young bull is heat stress causes a temporary decrease in fertility.</p><p></p><p>Good luck to you. The scrotal circumference is very good, and not out of line with what we've seen in our Murray Grey bulls. We breed for scrotal circumference, among other traits.</p><p></p><p>In a protected pasture with good feed and water close by, even a young Murray Grey bull can cover about 30-40 cows. I know, that's more than one would expect at that age, but I've seen it done on a regular basis. A good Murray Grey bull is an excellent breeder, and they do start young.</p><p></p><p>How old was this bull when you bought him? A reputable breeder should raise the bull to breeding age and have a BSE done before completing the sale. Is that what was done? How long ago? If he was sold as a weanling, then that's not so good.</p><p></p><p>> I took my reg. Murray grey bull to</p><p>> the vet today for a B.S.Exam. HE</p><p>> FAILED...He is a 13 month old</p><p>> murray grey bull. His scrotal cmf.</p><p>> was 36 which from what I</p><p>> understand is average. He produced</p><p>> sperm but the vet said it should</p><p>> have about three times as much</p><p>> little fishies in the pool. When</p><p>> do most people usually give bse</p><p>> test's. When I got home I put him</p><p>> out with my cow's. The vet said he</p><p>> may be able to breed about 5 or so</p><p>> cows... maybe, but obviously thats</p><p>> not what I'm looking for. I'm</p><p>> going to give him a few more</p><p>> months but in the meantime I've</p><p>> got to borrow someone elses bull</p><p>> so I dont miss my breeding season.</p><p>> That Suck's... Should I go ahead</p><p>> and take him back to the previous</p><p>> owner or should I stick it out for</p><p>> a while. He is a murray grey and</p><p>> from all I hear, they are supposed</p><p>> to be very fertile bull's. I</p><p>> bought him from a reputable</p><p>> breeder. I put him out with the</p><p>> cow's hoping they might stimulate</p><p>> him a little more. Any thought's</p><p>> or advise????????</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 5674"] A couple of other thoughts. Sometimes a young bull is a little more difficult to get a good semen sample from than it is from an older bull. This info is from my vet. We raise Murray Greys, and more than once the vet has had to take a second sample from an 11 to 13 month old MG bull and that sample will be excellent. For some reason the first sample with a young bull is sometimes very diluted. If the vet didn't sample the bull a second time during this exam, the bull needs to be sampled again. On rare occasion, the problem is with the vet. An impatient vet can come up with a poor sample. My other thought is for you to look back and think about what was happening to that bull a couple of months ago. That's when he was manufacturing the sperm you are sampling today. Was he especially stressed or mal nourished or exposed to extreme cold? More frequently, what happens in a young bull is heat stress causes a temporary decrease in fertility. Good luck to you. The scrotal circumference is very good, and not out of line with what we've seen in our Murray Grey bulls. We breed for scrotal circumference, among other traits. In a protected pasture with good feed and water close by, even a young Murray Grey bull can cover about 30-40 cows. I know, that's more than one would expect at that age, but I've seen it done on a regular basis. A good Murray Grey bull is an excellent breeder, and they do start young. How old was this bull when you bought him? A reputable breeder should raise the bull to breeding age and have a BSE done before completing the sale. Is that what was done? How long ago? If he was sold as a weanling, then that's not so good. > I took my reg. Murray grey bull to > the vet today for a B.S.Exam. HE > FAILED...He is a 13 month old > murray grey bull. His scrotal cmf. > was 36 which from what I > understand is average. He produced > sperm but the vet said it should > have about three times as much > little fishies in the pool. When > do most people usually give bse > test's. When I got home I put him > out with my cow's. The vet said he > may be able to breed about 5 or so > cows... maybe, but obviously thats > not what I'm looking for. I'm > going to give him a few more > months but in the meantime I've > got to borrow someone elses bull > so I dont miss my breeding season. > That Suck's... Should I go ahead > and take him back to the previous > owner or should I stick it out for > a while. He is a murray grey and > from all I hear, they are supposed > to be very fertile bull's. I > bought him from a reputable > breeder. I put him out with the > cow's hoping they might stimulate > him a little more. Any thought's > or advise???????? [/QUOTE]
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