AGROTAIN Stabilizer

[RiverHills]

Just wanted to see if anyone uses it on pasture?
Thought good or bad?

 

[callmefence]

I don't spread urea without it. Very cheap insurance.

 

[RiverHills]

I don't spread urea without it. Very cheap insurance.

That's kinda what I was thinking.
Is it just a blend or does all your urea have it on it?
What we used this year was a blend. It was for a push early and one a bit later.

 

[callmefence]

I don't spread urea without it. Very cheap insurance.

That's kinda what I was thinking.
Is it just a blend or does all your urea have it on it?
What we used this year was a blend. It was for a push early and one a bit later.

Our fertilzer dealer has a "rig" ( For lack of a better term) kinda remindes me off a iv drip. It dribbles the agrotain out on the conveyor and carried into the mixer.
You have to ask for it.

 

[jedstivers]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

 

[RiverHills]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

I think the place we get it from has it pre applied. Then we get a 50/50 mix.

Jed do use N-Serve on your ammonia anhydrous?

 

[tdc_cattle]

I use it. Still cheaper then nitrate.

 

[Clodhopper]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

I had 54 acres of pasture spread using Nitrain, which is Loveland's version of Agrotain. It cost an extra $65 to treat the urea. That's $1.20 an acre, which doesn't seem too expensive to me.

 

[Clodhopper]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

I think the place we get it from has it pre applied. Then we get a 50/50 mix.

Jed do use N-Serve on your ammonia anhydrous?

Not Jed, but I do all preplant NH3, and use N-Serve on everything except the last tank, to clean out the toolbar, N-Serve is kinda hard on equipment.

 

[jedstivers]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

I think the place we get it from has it pre applied. Then we get a 50/50 mix.

Jed do use N-Serve on your ammonia anhydrous?

No anhydrous here. I never have used it. All urea and AMS. Used to use some bulldog soda and AN. Loved both of those but can't get them anymore

 

[jedstivers]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

I had 54 acres of pasture spread using Nitrain, which is Loveland's version of Agrotain. It cost an extra $65 to treat the urea. That's $1.20 an acre, which doesn't seem too expensive to me.

It cost us more than that and even at 1.20 times three trips times 2,000 acres each trip gets to some money.

 

[RiverHills]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

I had 54 acres of pasture spread using Nitrain, which is Loveland's version of Agrotain. It cost an extra $65 to treat the urea. That's $1.20 an acre, which doesn't seem too expensive to me.

It cost us more than that and even at 1.20 times three trips times 2,000 acres each trip gets to some money.

I can see in your case it don't pay. You are using it when the crop is actively growing and your not applying it all at once. Kinda apples and oranges on how you are using your N(dry vs. anhydrous). There are a lot of big operation running over 10,000ac using it on every acre. They also apply it before planting or even in the fall and it needs to be there for the intire growing season.

 

[RiverHills]

Using it on grass and applying it at not the best time. I think it pays just wanting to see what others thought.

 

[Clodhopper]

Here it's mixed in the blender. Even if your only running urea they mix it good.
If not using arrotain and just straight urea it goes right in the trunk.
It works good but I seldom use it cause it cost so much. We are usually running right in front of a rain or watering it in.
wish it was cheaper.

I had 54 acres of pasture spread using Nitrain, which is Loveland's version of Agrotain. It cost an extra $65 to treat the urea. That's $1.20 an acre, which doesn't seem too expensive to me.

It cost us more than that and even at 1.20 times three trips times 2,000 acres each trip gets to some money.

You spread nitrogen on your pastures three times a year?

 

[jedstivers]

I had 54 acres of pasture spread using Nitrain, which is Loveland's version of Agrotain. It cost an extra $65 to treat the urea. That's $1.20 an acre, which doesn't seem too expensive to me.

It cost us more than that and even at 1.20 times three trips times 2,000 acres each trip gets to some money.

You spread nitrogen on your pastures three times a year?

Was talking about crop ground in that post. However I am stepping my hay production up this year as far as quality so it will get three shots. Pasture and hay ground also get what's left over everytime we are running crops and need somewhere to get rid of the last bit.
Also not changing blends for pasture or hay. If crops aren't getting agritain nothing else will either.

 

[Clodhopper]

That makes sense. We normally spread our pastures shortly before they take off growing in the spring, that's why we use it. Make sure it's there when it needs it right from the start.

 

[1wlimo]

That makes sense. We normally spread our pastures shortly before they take off growing in the spring, that's why we use it. Make sure it's there when it needs it right from the start.

unless you have water do not see how adding nitrogen helps much, over clover, but when you have the water required and the sunlight adding nitrogen little and often is a much better way to get the grass to grow.

 

[Stocker Steve]

The old recommendation was N twice in the spring and once in the fall. Some published lb of N per acre based on % clover in the stand. Class of livestock and VOG are the other big factors.

 

[Clodhopper]

That makes sense. We normally spread our pastures shortly before they take off growing in the spring, that's why we use it. Make sure it's there when it needs it right from the start.

unless you have water do not see how adding nitrogen helps much, over clover, but when you have the water required and the sunlight adding nitrogen little and often is a much better way to get the grass to grow.

Water is the reason why people spread their fertilizer on pasture and winter wheat in the late stages of winter around here. We catch a freeze to spread it on, because the large majority of our springs are wet. If you wait to spread, you may be waiting until six weeks into the growing season. That's why we use the N stabilizer. I agree, multiple applications would be better to a point, but most everyone is in the field planting or tending to crops until late summer. An early fall application is not a bad idea.

 

[tdc_cattle]

It cost us more than that and even at 1.20 times three trips times 2,000 acres each trip gets to some money.

You spread nitrogen on your pastures three times a year?

Was talking about crop ground in that post. However I am stepping my hay production up this year as far as quality so it will get three shots. Pasture and hay ground also get what's left over everytime we are running crops and need somewhere to get rid of the last bit.
Also not changing blends for pasture or hay. If crops aren't getting agritain nothing else will either.

If your not pulling soil samples and fertilizing accordanly your likely wasting more money then you'd spend in agrotain.