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<blockquote data-quote="1982vett" data-source="post: 618152" data-attributes="member: 7795"><p>Advise from Texas isn't going to <em>weather</em> very well. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite10" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" /> I'd think the hay is border line for your cold harsh weather. I believe the protein tubs are a good way to supplement the hay. Might consider a 30% tub (urea), my understanding (from what is being told around here) it is better in aiding in the digestion of the hay and a few dollars cheaper. (Could be that is what your 22% tub is) Add in the mineral you are giving and I believe you are doing everything you can right now. I'd say the cows aren't fat but not skin and bones either. If you can hold their condition I don't think you have much of a problem. I think most of them look pretty good from a southern perspective but I really don't have knowledge as to how fast they can lose condition up north.</p><p></p><p>As a comparison (without the cold wet condition) I'm short winter grazing. I have sorted into 3 groups, cows with calves, cows without calves, bred heifers. Bred cows are getting hay 10.7% Crude Protein, 7.3 % digestible CP, 34.4 ADF, 67.4 TDN Not to much different than yours. They are getting 18% all-natural protein tubs, mineral, and salt. They are holding condition pretty well, but not having to deal the your cold.</p><p></p><p>Cows with calves and bred heifers are getting to graze some oats every other day for a few hours and are getting some lesser quality hay on those days. Still saving the better hay.</p><p></p><p>Either way we both face the same delima, are we going to make it till spring and what is spring going to be like. Started to study the cow list again. Probably going to lay some gals off. Same idea I had last spring but didn't follow thru. :frowns:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="1982vett, post: 618152, member: 7795"] Advise from Texas isn't going to [i]weather[/i] very well. :oops: I'd think the hay is border line for your cold harsh weather. I believe the protein tubs are a good way to supplement the hay. Might consider a 30% tub (urea), my understanding (from what is being told around here) it is better in aiding in the digestion of the hay and a few dollars cheaper. (Could be that is what your 22% tub is) Add in the mineral you are giving and I believe you are doing everything you can right now. I'd say the cows aren't fat but not skin and bones either. If you can hold their condition I don't think you have much of a problem. I think most of them look pretty good from a southern perspective but I really don't have knowledge as to how fast they can lose condition up north. As a comparison (without the cold wet condition) I'm short winter grazing. I have sorted into 3 groups, cows with calves, cows without calves, bred heifers. Bred cows are getting hay 10.7% Crude Protein, 7.3 % digestible CP, 34.4 ADF, 67.4 TDN Not to much different than yours. They are getting 18% all-natural protein tubs, mineral, and salt. They are holding condition pretty well, but not having to deal the your cold. Cows with calves and bred heifers are getting to graze some oats every other day for a few hours and are getting some lesser quality hay on those days. Still saving the better hay. Either way we both face the same delima, are we going to make it till spring and what is spring going to be like. Started to study the cow list again. Probably going to lay some gals off. Same idea I had last spring but didn't follow thru. :frowns: [/QUOTE]
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