Nesikep
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Gotta put an arse on them bison somehow!
:lol: Good one Nesi!Nesikep":159n8l2r said:Gotta put an arse on them bison somehow!
Nesikep":3b1625zs said:Gotta put an arse on them bison somehow!
Nesikep":339zguvg said:I think it could make for a suited, hardy animal, but it might not equate to profitable... Any vaccination, mineral, or anything else?
So there will be some management (glad to hear it)I just always wonder with an operation of that size, and not doing paternity tests on your best calves (in a normal management scenario), how do you know what bulls are outstanding and really worth keeping aroundWalnutCrest":355o9ug3 said:Nesikep":355o9ug3 said:I think it could make for a suited, hardy animal, but it might not equate to profitable... Any vaccination, mineral, or anything else?
Free choice mineral.
Vaccinations at weaning on the new calves.
Vaccinations at preg checking on the bred calves.
Hay if lots of ice or snow, but generally they eat via managed pastures and stock piled grass.
WalnutCrest":1ywb0bne said:but he thinks lots about grass and forage availability ...July 15, 2018 -- all 2017 bull calves turned out with all cows and heifers
Rafter S":1ijyw4y0 said:Nesikep":1ijyw4y0 said:Gotta put an arse on them bison somehow!
Limis might do it.
WalnutCrest said:From a friend who is thinking low input, low stress. He could not care less about pedigrees, color or polled status ... but he thinks lots about grass and forage availability ...]
Then he should not be messing with mongrel cows. :nod:
Either lease out the pasture to someone else, or just run stockers in the summer and go to the beach in the winter. :idea:
Ah yes - nature shows, this week's hero is next week's villain.Stocker Steve":6eze3s42 said:Saw a PBS special on huge wolves and their main food source - - the woods bison.
The editor was very concerned during the entire show about how hard it was to kill a bison, and weather
all the wolf pups might starve...
If I was concerned about wolves, Horned Salers would be there.. I know they're quite capable of taking on a number of wolves as a herd.. they actually behave like bison and surround the calves, and all the pointy bits at the intruders. Fellow a ways north of me never used to lose calves to wolves while he ran high % Salers, then started losing a lot more as he got more into Angus.. he's looking for a 50/50 mix or so nowStocker Steve":24e6s8fv said:Rafter S":24e6s8fv said:Nesikep":24e6s8fv said:Gotta put an arse on them bison somehow!
Limis might do it.
Saw a PBS special on huge wolves and their main food source - - the woods bison. The editor was very concerned during the entire show about how hard it was to kill a bison, and weather all the wolf pups might starve...
Are your Limis mean enough to take on a 150# wolf?
Nesikep":4grrlit6 said:Stocker Steve":4grrlit6 said:Are your Limis mean enough to take on a 150# wolf?
If I was concerned about wolves, Horned Salers would be there.. I know they're quite capable of taking on a number of wolves as a herd.. they actually behave like bison and surround the calves, and all the pointy bits at the intruders. Fellow a ways north of me never used to lose calves to wolves while he ran high % Salers, then started losing a lot more as he got more into Angus.. he's looking for a 50/50 mix or so now
Stocker Steve":32v2g8zc said:WalnutCrest":32v2g8zc said:but he thinks lots about grass and forage availability ...July 15, 2018 -- all 2017 bull calves turned out with all cows and heifers
How is cow culling handled as the herd size increases?
Why not sell some bulls/steers the first year?
Stocker Steve":rukegumm said:WalnutCrest":rukegumm said:From a friend who is thinking low input, low stress. He could not care less about pedigrees, color or polled status ... but he thinks lots about grass and forage availability ...
Then he should not be messing with mongrel cows. :nod:
Stocker Steve":rukegumm said:Either lease out the pasture to someone else, or just run stockers in the summer and go to the beach in the winter. :idea:
Nesikep":63f87zti said:So there will be some management (glad to hear it)I just always wonder with an operation of that size, and not doing paternity tests on your best calves (in a normal management scenario), how do you know what bulls are outstanding and really worth keeping aroundWalnutCrest":63f87zti said:Nesikep":63f87zti said:I think it could make for a suited, hardy animal, but it might not equate to profitable... Any vaccination, mineral, or anything else?
Free choice mineral.
Vaccinations at weaning on the new calves.
Vaccinations at preg checking on the bred calves.
Hay if lots of ice or snow, but generally they eat via managed pastures and stock piled grass.
Jeanne - Simme Valley":3f18uqr6 said:So bulls are breeding sisters & dams. What is gained by this?
Jeanne - Simme Valley":3f18uqr6 said:Bulls will be 16 month old and sold in September. Is there a "great" market for bulls in September. Is this his way of being able to raise & to sell older bulls?
Jeanne - Simme Valley":3f18uqr6 said:I just don't understand what he is trying to accomplish. What am I missing?
Jeanne - Simme Valley":3f18uqr6 said:If I turned my heifers back out with the herd in 45 days, I can pretty well guarantee I would have some calves back sucking. To each his own.
A rodeo ranches up north, had lost bucking bulls to the wolves so I guess they shouldnt have any problems with eating salers and limousins.Nesikep":2lvdyltz said:If I was concerned about wolves, Horned Salers would be there.. I know they're quite capable of taking on a number of wolves as a herd.. they actually behave like bison and surround the calves, and all the pointy bits at the intruders. Fellow a ways north of me never used to lose calves to wolves while he ran high % Salers, then started losing a lot more as he got more into Angus.. he's looking for a 50/50 mix or so nowStocker Steve":2lvdyltz said:Rafter S":2lvdyltz said:Limis might do it.
Saw a PBS special on huge wolves and their main food source - - the woods bison. The editor was very concerned during the entire show about how hard it was to kill a bison, and weather all the wolf pups might starve...
Are your Limis mean enough to take on a 150# wolf?