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<blockquote data-quote="1982vett" data-source="post: 627773" data-attributes="member: 7795"><p>I suppose in much of the state ryegrass could be considered and invasive weed grass in small grains. But for grazing cattle it is very resilient. Moisture and fertilizer is about all you need. In our area it can be grazed hard thru early May and still make enough seed to reseed itself. Pretty much can just toss it out on the ground and it will grow given enough rain and cool temperatures. </p><p></p><p>Best I can recall it began showing up in the area in the early '70s. I think the highway department was planting it along right-of-ways under construction. But about the same time Dad started planting winter wheat to graze and then he combined in the spring and he fed it to hogs. Kind of a dual purpose crop. A lot of ours might have came in the wheat seed but it spread over the entire area so fast it had to be spread mostly along the highways. It didn't take long to realize it wasn't such a bad thing to have around. </p><p></p><p>Cost to plant, I think seed is about 50 cents a pound. (didn't buy any this year so that is a guess). If you plant into a tilled seedbed a pure stand I would plant about 25 - 30 lbs an acre. Fertilizer is pretty much the same as for oats. It's best use is to inter-seed with existing pastures. Broadcasting on top of the ground rates range from 10 - 30 lbs. Depends on how thick of a stand you want. If you get it to thick it can crowd out other grasses and clovers. In the fall of '07 I pasture drilled 10 lbs. per acre and I believe every seed came up. Just didn't get the moisture in the spring for it to do it's thing. Skimping on the fertilizer didn't help either. Keep it grazed down in the spring and it won't hurt or delay the warm seasons grasses much. Let it grow uncontrolled and it will ruin a good pasture. Best hay I've made was a mixture of bermuda, ryegrass and burr clover. A few years back I got around 3 tons an acre of pure rygrass hay per acre after grazing it. Fertilizer was cheap(er) then and it was one of our wetter years. I believe that year Dad had some oats that topped out at 4 1/2 - 5 foot. Leaf blades were an inch wide. Amazing year. (Someone ran out of fertilizer halfway thru spreading) :???: </p><p></p><p>About it's only drawback would be not much early fall grazing. That is why I plant oats and monitor how much ryegrass reseeds in the spring. If I think I need to I'll add ryegrass seed in the fall when planting oats. The oats is usually ready to graze by Thanksgiving and starts to play out in late March just about the time the ryegrass starts to put on its show. Keeps the grazing going till the end of May.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Got to agree with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="1982vett, post: 627773, member: 7795"] I suppose in much of the state ryegrass could be considered and invasive weed grass in small grains. But for grazing cattle it is very resilient. Moisture and fertilizer is about all you need. In our area it can be grazed hard thru early May and still make enough seed to reseed itself. Pretty much can just toss it out on the ground and it will grow given enough rain and cool temperatures. Best I can recall it began showing up in the area in the early '70s. I think the highway department was planting it along right-of-ways under construction. But about the same time Dad started planting winter wheat to graze and then he combined in the spring and he fed it to hogs. Kind of a dual purpose crop. A lot of ours might have came in the wheat seed but it spread over the entire area so fast it had to be spread mostly along the highways. It didn't take long to realize it wasn't such a bad thing to have around. Cost to plant, I think seed is about 50 cents a pound. (didn't buy any this year so that is a guess). If you plant into a tilled seedbed a pure stand I would plant about 25 - 30 lbs an acre. Fertilizer is pretty much the same as for oats. It's best use is to inter-seed with existing pastures. Broadcasting on top of the ground rates range from 10 - 30 lbs. Depends on how thick of a stand you want. If you get it to thick it can crowd out other grasses and clovers. In the fall of '07 I pasture drilled 10 lbs. per acre and I believe every seed came up. Just didn't get the moisture in the spring for it to do it's thing. Skimping on the fertilizer didn't help either. Keep it grazed down in the spring and it won't hurt or delay the warm seasons grasses much. Let it grow uncontrolled and it will ruin a good pasture. Best hay I've made was a mixture of bermuda, ryegrass and burr clover. A few years back I got around 3 tons an acre of pure rygrass hay per acre after grazing it. Fertilizer was cheap(er) then and it was one of our wetter years. I believe that year Dad had some oats that topped out at 4 1/2 - 5 foot. Leaf blades were an inch wide. Amazing year. (Someone ran out of fertilizer halfway thru spreading) :???: About it's only drawback would be not much early fall grazing. That is why I plant oats and monitor how much ryegrass reseeds in the spring. If I think I need to I'll add ryegrass seed in the fall when planting oats. The oats is usually ready to graze by Thanksgiving and starts to play out in late March just about the time the ryegrass starts to put on its show. Keeps the grazing going till the end of May. Got to agree with that. [/QUOTE]
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