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CJC":2lalhhdu said:
You guys haha. I'm trying not to get my feelings hurt here. I said I respected your opinions. I do respect them. Call me a socialist all you want. I'm proud of the country I am from and the fact that we choose to stand unarmed. just as my beliefs aren't tolerated there yours aren't tolerated here, but I still respect yours and I understand your point of view. I can't think of real examples but I know Canada has let down the USA on many occasions when we have been asked to stand and fight beside the USA. We send the Red Cross. We don't have the weapon power to fight beside America. I was born and raised on this philosophy you must have the slightest bit of understanding from that perspective. I'm sorry if I offended anyone for my beliefs, that was never intended. And I respect the apology I did get, so thank you.

Just to back you all up slightly about one comment I did get on here I'll give you a real life story about something that's happening to me right now.

We live in a nice community. We paid a lot of money for our place. A few months back about 3 refugee families moved right into our neighbourhood. 1 family is directly behind us. It is 1 women and 8 children ranging from the ages of 18-3 years old. We have a serious issue with these people. They have zero respect for us. We were in our back gardening playing a little country music and they literally grabbed a set of speakers to drain us out. They poke my dogs and throw things at them through the fence. I see the oldest boy smoking pot against our fence daily which is scary considering they just moved here and already got their hands on drugs. These are just a few examples but they are the neighbours from be nice. Yesterday my husband just about had it quits and he wanted to go over there and really let it known. I seriously begged him not to go. Why? Because I fear them. He told me its stupid and not rationalized but we've asked them nicely many times. I don't even know if they speak English as they just look at us blankley. I worry bcs of the violent country they came from. I picture them kicking my dog instead of poking it next time. Or maybe smashing the windows out of my house when we leave for work. Canada does make stupid choices. We are letting these families flood in left right and centre and you're right it is a problem I completely disagree with it. How am I supposed to be a good citizen and welcome them into our community when it's clear they offer me no respect. With the gun stuff I'm nieve I get it. I'm 28 years old and I still dream of world peace. I do wish for a world with no guns. Hate feeds hate, guns feed violence. I don't fear an argument with my fellow Canadians with weapons. I don't worry that if there is some road rage involved that person may have a gun in their car and I would if people were allowed to have them in their cars.

To bring up one other point mr illogical name caller brought up. Never lump France and Canada together. The vast majority of Canadians dispise the French culture. There may be similarities but most Canadians pray our French province gets separated from Canada myself included.

;-) Little more living under your belt, don't be surprised if your perspective of the world changes a little as well.

Raising beef is a good start.
 
CJC":1w35imix said:
I'm 28 years old and I still dream of world peace. I do wish for a world with no guns. Hate feeds hate, guns feed violence.

Apart from naivety of youth, I am confused how you can blame guns for the worlds ills. Its as if you believe they somehow have power over man. I would imagine a defense attorney would love having someone of your mindset on their jury as they defended his client who was accused of raping a woman when it totally wasn't his client's fault but the victim's fault for wearing such a sexy dress. She definitely was asking for it and the man had no choice in the matter. HE was in fact the victim.

You know, I have a rifle hanging peacefully on the wall that has been in my family for over 200 years and it, to my knowledge, hasn't harmed a soul. I also have shotguns and rifles I use for hunting and sport shooting and none of these have ever harmed a soul. Using your logic, you seem to think by my not having these weapons the world will be a safer place. That my friend makes absolutely no sense to me.
 
TexasBred":3nzf85tz said:
Son of Butch":3nzf85tz said:
CJC":3nzf85tz said:
Wow you guys. I don't have to believe in guns to be treated with respect. I said many times on this post I only want what's best for all of you. I said it was your right I never disagreed with it I just spoke my feelings from my perspective as an outsider. I am far from a tyrant for wanting peace for you. Don't breed hate.

I'll offer an apology for our American boys from Texas... even though I'll be labeled a commie for doing so.
Texas is not known for their educational system and most don't know Canada from France.
The once famous Southern manners left the building long ago with Elvis.
We're also known for some of the best universities in the country, highly ranked medical facilities and a great economy. Well ahead of that lute fish eating bunch of shyt heads in your state. Your'e not a commie... just a dumb a$$.

Thank goodness they didn't put NASA up there TB we would have never got to the moon or got Apollo 13 back had it not been for duct tape :pop:
 
Cjc, guns do not feed violence any more than 1000's of other objects, knives, cars, bats, screwdrivers, bombs, etc. you have already pointed out Nice, France. People feed violence. I'm 57 and realized many years ago there will never be world peace, I know never is a long time. There has never been world peace in the past and will not not be world peace for many, many generations I my opinion, who knows maybe in the year 3045. Oh man!!!! I sound like one of the doom and gloom bunch! :shock: :hide: :lol:
 
CJC":96eehegh said:
CJC":96eehegh said:
I'm 28 years old and I still dream of world peace. I do wish for a world with no guns. Hate feeds hate, guns feed violence.
Sorry where did I say that I blame guns for the worlds ills? I just tried to give you guys an example of how I understand where you are coming from and that's what you come back with? You just want to fight with me.

Just reading your own words.

Guns don't feed violence no more than hammers build homes. You are trying to blame everything but people. This is typical of idealistic liberal thought. You are ignoring the responsibility each of us has in a free society to be civil to one another but liberals fail to accept the fact there is evil in this world whether it be your next door neighbors' religious beliefs or the addict who would kill you for $20 to buy a fix.

I find it a shame that the people who truly value freedom and peace are the very ones liberals criticize. For instance, I'd wager most every gun owner on this board and every NRA member is all for capital punishment for crimes committed with a firearm and stiffer full punishments for those who cannot be civil in our society but the liberals continue to think everyone can be rehabilitated. That its not the criminals fault. That the criminal is a good boy. Its the guns fault. Or the hammer. Or society's fault.

Now that are living in fear of your new neighbors the liberal in me wants to say you are just Islamophobic but the independent is urging me to tell you to educate yourself on your history and especially study up on the once great Christian nation of Lebanon and see how well it worked out for those who shared and implemented your beliefs.
 
CJC":32f5z80h said:
Jogeephus":32f5z80h said:
CJC":32f5z80h said:
One member said on this post to set me straight they bought their first ruffle in Canada when they were 7. Like who is buying a 7 year child a gun! That blows me away.

I've bought several 7 year olds guns. I imagine a good portion of this forum was allowed to hunt small game and plink around the pasture at a very young age. Under various degrees of supervision. There was no stigma with guns, no evil, no violence. It was a tool like a saw or a tractor. All can kill. YOU were taught that.
You killed animals with the gun . You realized the serious responsibility it required. The gun was no big deal. But was very much respected.

Maybe when people stopped raising their children this way. Is about when the trouble started?
 
CJC":1ijmnk7q said:
The only point I ever tried to make was we just don't have the same problems here as you do where you live. There are so many things that have created that and absolutely gun laws aren't what caused that. But there is something to be said about that. I don't think if you take away everyone's guns things would change. But some counties are so pro fight they bring fight to many other counties. You're right I do fear my neighbors bcs I know what they came from. Violence was their life. I just have no idea how they would react. You know everyone that's responded to me for the most part just talks down to me like it's your God given right to set me straight. It's strange.

One member said on this post to set me straight they bought their first ruffle in Canada when they were 7. Like who is buying a 7 year child a gun! That blows me away.

I've stayed out of this for the most part because I've been just rolling my eyes at some of your comments hoping you are some troll. The talking down you feel is, I think, more frustration on the posters part than anything else due to your ignorance on this subject. We hear liberal politicians spewing this nonsense all too often and it becomes tiresome.

I agree with Fence. My son killed his first deer at the age of six. Did I turn him loose with a rifle? Absolutely NOT. Its called parenting. Hunting and sport shooting is a family sport. It teaches responsibility. Like Fence says, a gun is no different than a hammer or any other tool. Its just a thing. It has no magical powers and can do NOTHING more than the what person holding it makes it do.

These so called pro-fight counties you speak are simply places that are filled with animals who refuse to take responsibility for their lives and want to blame others. If you look at the FBI statistics on gun violence its clear to see the most gun restrictive areas are also the areas that have the highest incidence of gun violence so its obvious gun restrictions will do nothing more than restrict the rights of the 150,000,000 law abiding gun owners in this country.

Also, is you look at the crime statistics you will see the majority of all crimes committed in this country stem from one segment of our society and are isolated to four major liberal controlled, highly gun regulated areas of our country. Our murder rate is twice yours but we also have four times the number in the demographic group committing these crimes but we can't talk about that.

The bottom line is its all about family and teaching your children to be responsible citizens. Sadly, idealistic, liberal policies have created generations of children who have no concept of family or responsibility. Here in lies the problem and to think restricting the rights of millions of law abiding citizens will somehow fix this problem is utterly insane. Now to add to this problem, we have the same advocates seeking to allow thousands of migrants who, according to their religion, want to kill people who do not share their warped intolerant beliefs while at the same time wanting to release 300,000 felons on our streets. Yes, we have a problem but I assure you its not guns.
 
CJC":1xfujmja said:
Jogeephus":1xfujmja said:
CJC":1xfujmja said:
Sorry where did I say that I blame guns for the worlds ills? I just tried to give you guys an example of how I understand where you are coming from and that's what you come back with? You just want to fight with me.

Just reading your own words.

Guns don't feed violence no more than hammers build homes. You are trying to blame everything but people. This is typical of idealistic liberal thought. You are ignoring the responsibility each of us has in a free society to be civil to one another but liberals fail to accept the fact there is evil in this world whether it be your next door neighbors' religious beliefs or the addict who would kill you for $20 to buy a fix.

I find it a shame that the people who truly value freedom and peace are the very ones liberals criticize. For instance, I'd wager most every gun owner on this board and every NRA member is all for capital punishment for crimes committed with a firearm and stiffer full punishments for those who cannot be civil in our society but the liberals continue to think everyone can be rehabilitated. That its not the criminals fault. That the criminal is a good boy. Its the guns fault. Or the hammer. Or society's fault.

Now that are living in fear of your new neighbors the liberal in me wants to say you are just Islamophobic but the independent is urging me to tell you to educate yourself on your history and especially study up on the once great Christian nation of Lebanon and see how well it worked out for those who shared and implemented your beliefs.

The only point I ever tried to make was we just don't have the same problems here as you do where you live. There are so many things that have created that and absolutely gun laws aren't what caused that. But there is something to be said about that. I don't think if you take away everyone's guns things would change. But some counties are so pro fight they bring fight to many other counties. You're right I do fear my neighbors bcs I know what they came from. Violence was their life. I just have no idea how they would react. You know everyone that's responded to me for the most part just talks down to me like it's your God given right to set me straight. It's strange.

One member said on this post to set me straight they bought their first ruffle in Canada when they were 7. Like who is buying a 7 year child a gun! That blows me away.

I hope you don't go away.
 
I just caught up on this thread. I have the same view as the majority here. Ive been looking at guns for my granddaughter and she is 2 weeks old. I'll ask anyone that says they are opposed to guns what will you do if God forbid someone breaks into your home with the intent to rape or kill you??? Call 911 ,tell him guns are bad or shoot his azz and call someone to come clean up the mess. Most of us are rural it's 20min for police or ems to get here. Guns keel people safe and governments in check.
 
I highly recommend spending some time on a range and learning to shoot. Most people's aversion is changed once they understand the dynamics of it and the responsibility it takes to be armed. A responsible farmer rancher needs a firearm at the very least to dispatch a suffering animal or to eliminate a predator
 
An unarmed country has subjects not citizens that is the reason the second amendment is the right to bear arms to protect all others from tryants.
True freedom had a cost and is paid in blood.
As to quote Thomas Jefferson the tree of liberty has to refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tryants.
 
CJC":16k24hc3 said:
I only made the suggestion that maybe guns need to be harder to get. I watch cnn even your own county suggests that after these incidents. I shutter at the sight of a gun, it's just the way I was raised but I never said it made what you all believe wrong. I completely understand your perspective but it doesn't mean if I don't choose it for myself I'm a tyrant, socialist, illogical, etc like everyone has suggested.

I guess CNN didn't bother to mention the FBI does a background check on each and every gun purchase did they? Oh, and there is no such thing as a gun show loophole.
 
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