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<blockquote data-quote="SCRUBS620" data-source="post: 358587" data-attributes="member: 5302"><p>Have you actually talked to anyone who has done this? I would love to get into something along those lines but I have always understood that the requirements are a big hassle. Have you checked into getting FDA approval? It is my understanding that your labeling must be approved by the FDA. Will the processors in your area have the inspectors available to meet that requirement?</p><p></p><p>As for the heterosis issue - I think your forum was hijacked. You dont need a five way cross. Get a good F1 cross mama cow (hereford x angus) and put an even better bull on them. As long as your not going to be selling the calves coat color does not matter. Have you thought about just getting some calves from a good producer to fatten out first to see what it is like? Getting calves to market weight can be a challenge, do you want the challenge of building a herd while you are learning to do that? Building a good cow herd is a big expense that will not start paying for at least 2 to 3 years and will take many years to pay off. Get some calves while your building the herd and you'll have income while you get established (plus fully using your pasture will do it some good). You might be able to estimate better how many mama cows and how many butcher beef you can support. It will take two years to get a calf born on your place to finish on grass. This means you will not only be grazing the mamas (who will be supporting a calf) but also yearlings and ones getting ready to finish. So year one you would have 1200lbs of cow, 400 lbs of calf. Year two you would have 1200lbs of cow, 400 lbs of calf, and a 800 yearling. Year three you would have 1200 lbs of cow, 400 lbs of calf, 800 lbs of yearling, and 1200 lbs of butcher ready beef. There is going to be 3600 lbs of beef that needs to be supported by your pasture for every butcher beef you want to sell annually. Find out how many animal units (1000 lbs of animal) pasture in your area can support. I would say that you are going to have to divide whatever the normal stocking rate in your area by three (if everyone else stocks 1 cow per acre you could stock one cow for every three acres and still have enough reserve to finish them) Even with that consider the fact that your are not <strong><u>just</u></strong> trying to maintain a good portion of that. You have to be able to make them gain weight fast enough to finish well. You cant poke along on the rate of gain and end up with a tender product that someone will be willing to pay a premium for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SCRUBS620, post: 358587, member: 5302"] Have you actually talked to anyone who has done this? I would love to get into something along those lines but I have always understood that the requirements are a big hassle. Have you checked into getting FDA approval? It is my understanding that your labeling must be approved by the FDA. Will the processors in your area have the inspectors available to meet that requirement? As for the heterosis issue - I think your forum was hijacked. You dont need a five way cross. Get a good F1 cross mama cow (hereford x angus) and put an even better bull on them. As long as your not going to be selling the calves coat color does not matter. Have you thought about just getting some calves from a good producer to fatten out first to see what it is like? Getting calves to market weight can be a challenge, do you want the challenge of building a herd while you are learning to do that? Building a good cow herd is a big expense that will not start paying for at least 2 to 3 years and will take many years to pay off. Get some calves while your building the herd and you'll have income while you get established (plus fully using your pasture will do it some good). You might be able to estimate better how many mama cows and how many butcher beef you can support. It will take two years to get a calf born on your place to finish on grass. This means you will not only be grazing the mamas (who will be supporting a calf) but also yearlings and ones getting ready to finish. So year one you would have 1200lbs of cow, 400 lbs of calf. Year two you would have 1200lbs of cow, 400 lbs of calf, and a 800 yearling. Year three you would have 1200 lbs of cow, 400 lbs of calf, 800 lbs of yearling, and 1200 lbs of butcher ready beef. There is going to be 3600 lbs of beef that needs to be supported by your pasture for every butcher beef you want to sell annually. Find out how many animal units (1000 lbs of animal) pasture in your area can support. I would say that you are going to have to divide whatever the normal stocking rate in your area by three (if everyone else stocks 1 cow per acre you could stock one cow for every three acres and still have enough reserve to finish them) Even with that consider the fact that your are not [b][u]just[/u][/b] trying to maintain a good portion of that. You have to be able to make them gain weight fast enough to finish well. You cant poke along on the rate of gain and end up with a tender product that someone will be willing to pay a premium for. [/QUOTE]
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