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You're probably right that Longhorns don't pay as well. But to "do the math" you need all the figures. Like how much does a Longhorn eat vs an Angus. The extra 150 pounds isn't free - it takes feed. And to maintain a higher muscled cow all year isn't free either. Can anyone tell me...

Fascinating that people okay with black angus in the south, think Brahman up north are dumb.

Most people worry more about the cold, when heat stress is the bigger issue for cattle. Rumen fermentation produces a lot of heat that they can struggle to dissipate. But that heat also makes them more comfortable in winter than we realize. So of course, we screwed up the whole U.S...

Always amazes me how the god of government can determine what should be raised where. What if shoe prices went up, would they provide incentives to produce those there also? Don't want to import shoes. I thought central planning has been proven not to work. And somebody has to pay for...

There are other factors that affect appetite, but my point is the physiologic fact that more muscle in a cowherd requires more feed. Many round cows said to be easy-keepers actually just eat alot. So in a limited feed situation, need to limit milk and muscle. Many seem to think...

Do sharp cattle have to produce more milk? I'm thinking Longhorn. As for hard-doing, almost seems like muscle is as big a problem as milk, as muscle tissue is metabolically active and requires more calories to maintain. I have had just a few cows the past few years, so was able to observe...

At some point, due to the fraud of CAB, and animal welfare issues, something will have to change. The part of CAB I get a kick out of is the word CERTIFY. I mean, when you certify something, you give complete assurance that it is true. So to certify that a CAB animal is actually angus...

Has the Charolais breed changed? They used to be a growth and muscle breed. Muscle tissue is more metabolically active, so a muscular cow will need more calories to maintain more muscle. So supposedly Charolais cows would need to eat more than a less muscular maternal breed...

A few comments from someone with not enough cows to have any credibility. First, weaning a 710 pound calf does not impress me unless I know how much the cow ate to do it. Big calves out of small cows is better, though size is not perfectly correlated with feed intake. Seems to be alot of...

There are just two breeds of importance - Black and NotBlack. I would call her the latter.

Back to the original topic..... I've fiddled with various breeds for small acreage over the years. For milk, I would avoid a pure dairy cow unless you are good at dealing with problems associated with higher production - milk fever, mastitis, etc. Not affecting all cows, but you never...

Especially when that single trait is a negative. The cost of black hair is becoming more obvious as discussed in this article. I have been fascinated for years watching the whole cattle industry head the wrong direction. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 2816300281

Let me throw in a few thoughts and observations before this topic dies. One problem with efficiency is the buyers want uniformity. To be efficient, you want a smaller more feminine cow, bred to a larger, high growth bull. Essentially two different types that leads to variation in the...

Why did you ask the question? You don't have to get permission from the internet to have fun.

I wonder if the bulls are getting too good. I watch the 15 best riders go at it and often only one or two get to 8 seconds. Maybe we need to have a breeding program for riders. Or change scoring so get some points even if don't get to 8 seconds. Stone Sober:

Ran across this today which relates to this discussion. http://www.angusbeefbulletin.com/extra/ ... skWejjSnIU Interesting that brahman have the longest gestation at 292 days, vs 281 for angus. So if you have brangus heifers, which genetics are affecting gestation length and therefore...

Sure you want gallons of milk a day? They can have more problems like milk fever. I have milked beef/Jersey crosses that gave me more milk than I wanted. I'm now stealing milk from a couple beef heifers a couple times a week for just the wife and I. Good milk, just not as much cream as...

First off, most businesses don't criticize their customers, but try to give them what they want, which makes them more money. Doesn't seem that crazy to me to believe dehorning and castrating is cruel. There is pain involved, and if done to a human, we would agree it is cruel. Not saying...

Pretty girls. Never did understand crossing with Brahman to help them cool off, and then going black to make them hotter.

Ok, here's where you're losing me. The point of science is is to eliminate bias. Until you have a scientific study, people will assume you have a biased opinion. So the sooner you can use the scientific method to prove your opinion, the easier your marketing will be. It appears you're...