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Now the heifers find out they have to work for a living. Ken

I like that calf 3rd photo down. Ken

You were worried about twins but you probably got the combined weight of twins in the one package. Ken

Very nice, I think the biggest thing to worry about is not to be in too much of a hurry to interfere yourself, observe from a distance and most of the time their natural instincts will have the situation well under control. Ken

Uggg, the one upside down. Ken

If you know when your show heifers were on heat I would wait a week before starting the proticol just to put them in a better stage to respond to the prostaglandin. Ken

A video would be good. Ken

Won't hurt to check though not knowing what you are feeling might pose more questions for you to ponder. Ken

You can be a lot more accurate when you have a good idea of the breeding date. Ken

That landscape looks a lot different to other years Dave. Ken

@Chuckie Milk EPD is only calculated from the weaning weight of her calves. Ken

Sounds like you are going up market a bit Murray. Ken

I had one years ago when I was starting with my herd from mixed sources and I believe this calf was BVD affected, whether a PI or later inutero infection where you just get defects. It was a runty calf not worth trying to save. Ken

Just like shelling peas here. Ken

Neither, just a normal size calf. I never get them right trying to pick them. Ken

That's a nice clean looking prolapse TC. Ken

Did she hook back on to her own calf OK? Ken

I haven't done many C sections however the reason is pretty much as described previously in that the rumen displaces all the intestines to the right side including the calf however in late pregnancies the calf occupies a big area and parts will be accessible behind the rumen to access the uterus...

I hope you prove me wrong but I think you are mad just taking on someone else's problem like this. Best of luck with it. Ken

Just back to the original question on manual testing, it is easier to give a +ve result than a -ve. If you go in at 4 mths and start bouncing a calf in there you are done and dusted. If you can't find that then you have to go back and find the uterine horns and carefully palpate those for any...