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So if I understand Taurus correctly,they get fat too easy but are hard keepers.

I agree Caustic that there is some stealing going on and also that can vary with locales.There is no easy 1 size fits all answer of course.I would tell a cattleman to look at the big picture of his operation.Is he losing a little at the sale barn but making it up big time on the farm or ranch...

Were they docked or did they not bring as much,was everything equal,vacinations,weight,degree of finish,days weaned etc.If all things were equal it would be interesting to compare notes at harvest.

I contend that there is more money to be made focusing on the cow herd attributes than having black calves to sell.High input costs will force cattlemen to develop the most efficient cow herd possible.Hybrid vigor will need to be used to the max in the commercial herd.A red or roan Shorthorn...

Cowgirlboots,If you do your homework and find a Shorthorn bull that compliments your cow herd,I believe you will be well satisfied with the cross and even happier if you retain females to go into your herd.I have said on here before that a herd of roan whiteface cattle was what finally convinced...

Thank You for your comments Caustic,I knew we could come together with old Hoss lookin over our conversation.I will even go as far as saying that ''Brimmer'' influence is crucial in a crossbreeding program in the deep south!Gerts and Beefmasters of course! :) Getting back to the subject at...

I would add to Kmac's last sentence, not all Shorthorns are crossed up.I would also say that the ASA provided an avenue for breeders to do it legitamatley so that cattlemen could make a knowledgeable purchase or breeding decision by looking at the pedigree.I am not so naive as to say that some...

Caustic, Your statement is quite a generalization that may have been truer in the 60's and 70's but not so much today. The argument has also changed, the most is meaningless and return over inputs is what matters.That is why cattlemen are starting to look at the Shorthorn and Hereford again.

Speaking to the pounds subject,the last time I checked the across breed epd tables there were not many breeds with a higher adjustment factor for weaning and yearling epd's than the Shorthorn. On the purity subject,I am a strong believer that the more pure and tightly bred the components are in...

I f the heifers were of similar type I would use him.

I believe that the Shorthorn's greatest contribution to profitability will be as a component in a crossbred cow herd but here is some more data to back up an earlier post where I commented on their feeding abilities.The Oklahoma feedlot test sponsored by the university and the extension office...

Around here Longhorn pricing means a big hit.If they were good cattle and brought that kind of pricing I wouldn't trust that sale barn with any kind of cattle.

I don't think we could catch all that action with 6 cameras :shock:

Any chance we can see a video of the tagging of the 206 calf?

I actually have the spot picked out where I am going to bury 108.Several have concurred that the roan calf is special.He is easy to find as he is the only roan born here this year.

I agree with Turning Grass into Beef.Do your homework find the right kind and make some money.Functional maternal type Shorthorns compliment the Angus based cowherd and get you the money left on the table from loss of hybrid vigor.Not only that but these cattle feed efficiently as well.A partner...

I think I can top that 35deg and rained solid all day yesterday with a strong east wind,I'll tell you how much snow when it quits sometime tonight and that strong NW wind is supposed to hit this afternoon,a typical winter cycle in IL.

I have seen some pictures of your ''antique'' calves Coyote and would like to know your impressions on them.Are you going to use them back on your herd? Also getting back to the''Crash Course''one of the things that is exciting to me is the new people like Lucky_P and 2/B or not 2/b and several...

Coyote,you and tgib are innocent!

The Shorthorns ability to adapt to a wide variety of production scenarios has been both a blessing and a curse both historicly and today.Due Dilligence is the key word in searching out Shorthorn breeding stock. ''Real World'' in the Shorthorn business can mean anything from a herd that doesn't...