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No, you aren't wrong, I am. I meant "King Domino" in reference to John. I slipped "King Ten" in by mistake. Badlands

Brae Ardens were basically devoid of marbling. They had a few convenience problems as well. Your King Ten's were a better play, John. The guys with the Prospector's I mentioned above also have the last Tarrington's, and maybe even a few Tiberius left. I don't think their Tarrinton's are...

I teach school to a kid whose Grandpa was one of the cooperative ranchers who bred Prospectors with CSU. They have had Prospector's up to 48% inbred. What do you want to know about them? Badlands

Are we talking about efficiency or gain? Correlated traits, but not perfectly correlated. Only about 15% of the variation in FE is explained by gain. FE is only the border between being moderately to highly heritable, so it is on the border between having moderate to low heterosis. However...

Who pirated my account? LOL. :clap: :clap: mtnman

Probably a stupid question, are they 07 calves or 08 calves? They would be heavy calves if 08 born-over 1600 pounds? badlands

Interesting how a program based on science, rather than promotion garners so little conversation. Badlands

This arrangement has favored the calf buyer for the last 30+ years, resulting in increased mature cow weights. The statement is wrong in action, correct in theory. The "calf buyer" part of the statement completely overshadows the "environment" part of the statement as it has been applied for...

7-8 is average, and I would guess it is actually closer to 7 than 8. You just aren't going to stray very far from that number. It is important to look at the whole distribution, not just the few that make it to an old age. If there truly were a high percentage that made it to that advanced...

I have never seen a Red Poll bull of that quality, he is very nice. Above average muscle for a Red Poll for sure. I do not see the heart girth issue that others are. If you show me a bull that is completely flat from his brisket to his belly, I will show you a fat bull. Using Doc's...

The Holstein is behind the MGS (maternal grandsire), Mr Outback. I guess a similarly bred bull appears on the top of the pedigree, too, so therre is more than one shot of Holstein. There is also some Angus behind a couple other animals, but I didn't take the time to make note. PB vs. FB...

I don't know what you would ask for her, but you should make it clear that she is a PUREBRED MG, not a FULLBLOOD. She goes back to a Holstein cow through her MGS. Badlands

Phwew! I was scratching my head wondering why on earth Doc would want to take on a deal like that when he would be a time in his life to relax, enjoy his family and friends. Gosh, that position has been open for a while, haven't they filled it yet? Badlands

I think the headline said Stocker Feeders. I suspect the Angus heifers were for breeding. Apples to apples. Badlands

If he measures 3.7 (or 3.93), but he produces 5 frame, then he is genetically larger than 3.7 frame assuming the cows were not big cows over 6.3 frame. His phenotype tells us what he might produce. He is a heavyweight bull for his frame. He might be: A 3.7 frame thick bull, or, he might...

Please expound. If the supporting evidence does exist, then how does the final application and management become impractical? How is it that changing cow size to make more money is impractical? Maybe everyday cattlemen are unwilling to make more money regardless of the argument/evidence...

I must say, this is very interesting. I expect yearling bulls in single sire groups to GAIN weight breeding anywhere from 30-45 head of females. If they don't, they are culled. Badlands

LOL, what a way to get a plug in for your new herdbull!! Badlands

You gonna use your powers of persuasion to get him to come over to your side, Herefordsire? Badlands

Herefordsire, you are not getting "it". Whether or not Simmental came into the mix is irrelavent to the calculation of the IBC's. They are based on what the PAPER says the parents are, not what the animal actually is bred like. Badlands