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He's 18 months. Very little feed. Out of a home raised cow here. Not really what I like but he is going to have to be clean up bull here for awhile.

Probabaly best calves he ever has. Lol. Would be my worst

This guy may be more trouble than he's worth. He is definitely not where he is supposed to be

I will get pictures. I mowed and baled part of it and clover is coming back good. That's reason for not tilling it up. I guess I can. I was looking for alternative options I guess.

Northeast Missouri. OK so in spring then? Could I no till in oats or wheat? Something I can bale?

Anything I can do without tilling up. Can I 2,4,D it this fall and no till clover in spring?

I bought a Zetor 165 last yr. Trouble free, mowed fast, way cheaper than disc mower. I have seen older 4 drum mowers but haven't looked recently for new 4 drum. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one and I do NOT Tedder anything. But my hay isn't very good. Haven't had a problem with curing.

Travis, I live about an hour from Mt Pleasant IA. We have had a few rains and them nothing. Glad u got your bulls sold. They looked good. This whole purity thing is getting out of hand.I like the info but not politics.

Very well put Travis

Lol.

WalnutCrest, I would assume u would not use the bull for simple fact u have found what works for u. I think he is similar type as yours. As for cost it would vary between management on the cost of 60 lbs. And shows don't pay bills as u stated. We all look at things differently. F1...

That's funny. Made me chuckle

:bday: Lol. I agree Ed''s bull looked nice. As for buying something I look ask questions and do my own thing. I think there is more than u and I know going on with all that politics.

Someone thinks old genetics are worth something. http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go& ... grimage%2F

So u can have a calf ready by thanksgiving on grass. What weight if u don't mind me asking, and are u saying weaned fall calf here or spring calf? And u are right no one uses old hereford semen. I raise what I want. No daddy's money here. I think the skinny a $$ed Angus black things look...

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77568&start=15 Would u use this bull?

That probably is different between your operation and mine. How much corn do u buy to feed? That is a cost rather u raise corn or buy it. I would rather have a 5 frame ideally but not everyone is the same.

While I admit I have a few lighter heifers that are 1000 lbs I also have several in the 1200 lb so 600 lb. And I think we both know that not every cow or calf is the same. That's why their are different breeds, different colors and different types. U chase your dreams and I will chase mine

I agree on some things. I really think some of the old bulls were really good and could still be useful today. As for toads take that however u want. I would rather have a frame 4 cow that produces over 50% weaning weight calf than a frame 7 that weans a 35% calf. Lbs are lbs. But before u...

If you could only use old genetics were all u could use. What would you use.