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    frame size/cattle type based on owned or leased pasture

    Yes sir, that dang sure needs to be taken into account. Where I am, we run on corn stalks through the winter paying on a per head per day basis.
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    frame size/cattle type based on owned or leased pasture

    I agree with having smaller cows on land where you are getting to decide the stalking rate. That would be a case of making the land more efficient by weaning more pounds per acre. Where I'm from however, most lease situations the land owner tells you how many pair you can run, and you pay on a...
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    frame size/cattle type based on owned or leased pasture

    Don't need a frame score 5 cow to get a frame score 5 calf. Exactly. I had this discussion with a gentleman yesterday. He raises purebreds, sells bulls, and was making his pitch as to why he needs those larger framed cows. I agree, in his situation he needs those larger framed cows if his...
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    frame size/cattle type based on owned or leased pasture

    Has anybody every heard of or put any thought in to varying the size or type of cattle you run based on whether you own the land/pay a flat rate, or if you pay on a per head per day basis while on pasture? I'm not trying to beat the dead horse, but it goes along with the conversation of being...
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    How long to feed out a heifer?

    Depending on her current condition, I would think 30-45 days on corn would finish her out if her body condition score is a 5-6. As far as pen size, 200 square feet of pen space/calf is what I have found is about average in an open air feedlot situation.
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    Calves on corn stalks

    Thank you for the reply, I had a nutritionist look at it last year and the best rate of gain he said we could get is 1.7 pounds per day on a self feeder (creep feeder) 30% corn 70% limiter ration at a cost of $1.18/day or $.69 per pound of gain. I'm just wondering if anybody is doing any...
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    Calves on corn stalks

    For those of you who run cattle on corn stalks, I'm wondering what kind of gains you get on calves on corn stalks. What are you using for supplement? Can you get 2 pounds a day out of weaned calves if they are supplemented right?
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    Squeeze Chute

    I would suggest anchoring it down. I know cattle are just supposed to walk into the chute, but they may have other ideas. Then when you get them caught they can dang sure thrash around. It will move on ya if either of these occur. We just have ours on the ground, and unless a person is...
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    When's a steer ready for the freezer?

    Ideal market or finish weight is 1250-1300 lbs. Average dressing percentage on beef cattle is 60-65%. As far as feed goes calves should be on a diet to grow frame and muscle (30% corn or other concentrate, 70% roughage) when they are on the lighter side. Once they get closer to finish weight...
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    New working system

    The pens in the design are 32x60, 24x60, and the smaller pen by the chute would be 30x40. We would work 80-100 head through. When we work cattle we generally work either cows or calves hardly ever both on the same day. My thoughts with the gates at the end of the alley, toward the arena, is...
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    New working system

    Alley is 12 foot wide and around 80 foot long. With a gate in the middle you would only be walking 40 feet. As far as the right angles go, cattle are gonna ball up in any corner there is, unless you make everything round with no corners they will ball up. I worked calves in a hundred thousand...
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    New working system

    It's called sketch-up. you can purchase or download a version for free.
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    New working system

    Most the time once we get them corralled we will sort and work on foot.
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    New working system

    Here is a picture of the whole pen set up. https://postimg.cc/MMrZFXxm Horse runs coming off the barn, the pen behind the roping boxes would act as a pen for roping cattle, unless working cows. I haven't put it in yet, but the overhead half way down the alley would have a gate on it. All...
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    New working system

    The wife and I are in the process of buying a new place and I've been trying to figure out what I want for working facilities. Wanting some feedback on what you think of this design. I wouldn't call it a bud box, but kind of would be working on the same principles, with the option of being...
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    JC Martin saddles

    I have never been around a JC martin saddle, but saw this thread and did a little research. Looks like they got a bit of a bad reputation for importing some english saddles out of India, but have discontinued that since 2011. Reading about their process and the material they use, they seem to...
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    Whats your favorite breed of cow dog?

    Would like to start a little discussion on peoples favorite breeds of cow dogs. I have my own opinions, which I will share, but want to know what others think. I have really grown to like Hangin' Tree Cow Dogs. I got one two years ago and honestly don't think I will own a different breed. The...
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    hanging tree dogs..

    I have a hanging tree dog. He is just 2 years old and for my limited ability getting one trained he is actually getting to be pretty solid. Most days I can gather all of our cows with just him and me. He doesn't have a whole lot of bite to him, but he definitely saved me during calving...
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    Working pen materials

    We will top rail in alley ways and working pens, but in just corrals we don't. Most often they are 14 ga. 1.25" round tubing 20' long and you would set posts at 10' centers. Pretty much the same or better material as most portable panels, but dang near twice as long and the same price. You...
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    Pen Designs

    So my wife and I are trying to get the place we live at now bought and the pens on the place are in need of replacing so I spent some time figuring out how I would re do the corrals. This is what I would like to do if we get it bought.
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