Stocker Steve
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ALACOWMAN":1h3ks26f said:
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SAV Elation 7899
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Chocolate Cow2
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I always wonder if the $$$ ever really change hands on these 'over the top' expensive cattle.
wbvs58
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Is an $800,000 bull 8 times better than a $100,000 bull or 100 times better than a $8000 bull? No, it is like an exponential curve, at the top you have to pay a lot of money to get that last bit of extra performance, well hopefully you get extra performance.
I think with these big prices you are also buying the publicity and bragging rights that goes with the big price tag.
Ken
I think with these big prices you are also buying the publicity and bragging rights that goes with the big price tag.
Ken
Jake
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Just look at the free advertising they have gotten on this bull over the past week. He's all over Facebook and about every ag media outlet around. I don't know how you quantify that but it's worth something.
Luckiamute
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I'd guess his semen won't sell for $20 a straw. A lot of the current SAV bulls are around $40 a straw for conventional semen, then the sexed semen would naturally cost more, probably $75 a straw, if they elect to go that route. Then the A.I. certificates will likely be around $40 each, so all of that will add up, plus the tax depreciation write off will come in handy. As others have noted, I sometimes wonder how much money actually changes hands on sales like this.
Jake
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Luckiamute":3hc4hwqz said:
Semen is being offered at $50/ unit
frieghttrain
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Tbh he doesn't look impressive to me at all considering the bulls that have come out of that program and I sure as heck wouldn't pay 50 a straw for him. Just my :2cents:ALACOWMAN":2qy1ys9p said:
Son of Butch
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Nice try Ken, but Wrong....wbvs58":12y0orvp said:
IF you are currently weaning 500 lb calves, I'm pretty sure 8 times more or 4,000 lb weaning weights is what you'll get.
Ya can't fool me with your exponential curves. :cowboy:
jscunn
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On the Semen certificate deal, the AAA gets a $10 flat fee per AI cert for transferring them from SAV to ABC Angus, the owners get the rest.
Bestoutwest
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Luckiamute":36gt0h3s said:
That is still a ton of straws and certificates. My money is on it being a publicity stunt. Get your name out there, get a big bull, and hopefully the money rolls in.
WalnutCrest
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NonTypicalCPA":2lwl2kc0 said:
...I know.
Tax considerations really do come into play, especially if there is substantial income.
Son of Butch
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frieghttrain":19z55buq said:
Son of Butch
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High Hopes (is what I'd have named him)frieghttrain":1rnps65o said:
He does bring something to the table and doesn't look bad, until you ask.... Is that what 100k looks like let alone 800?
IMO He's a Boom or Bust prospect and at $50 with bottom 15% scrotal and bottom 30% hp
I'll be more than content to wait 4-5 yrs before deciding to try him or not.
Well this record didn't last long, Coleman Bravo sold today for 450k half interest if my math is correct that means valued at 900k. Congratulations to Larry and Dee.
Gizmom
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Jake
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Elation was 800 for 80% so he's a million dollar valuation.gizmom":2mle33yp said:
Jake
Your correct, but still a whole lot of money for a young bull.
Gizmom
Your correct, but still a whole lot of money for a young bull.
Gizmom
Jake
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gizmom":2no7fswy said:
Very true. I wonder if any sire has ever produced more $$$ in a 18 month period than Charlo
Jake
I don't know but I do know when we started selling our yearling bulls the Charlo calves were the first ones selected. He sure adds power. I am a fan of XXP for the maternal power he adds to the equation. I am using the Extension bull and using sexed heifer semen to try to get as many females as I can. Which means the flush will probably be a total bust! Anytime I get really excited about a mating it seems to jinx it.
Gizmom
I don't know but I do know when we started selling our yearling bulls the Charlo calves were the first ones selected. He sure adds power. I am a fan of XXP for the maternal power he adds to the equation. I am using the Extension bull and using sexed heifer semen to try to get as many females as I can. Which means the flush will probably be a total bust! Anytime I get really excited about a mating it seems to jinx it.
Gizmom
Son of Butch
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I'm sure there has been, but what criteria are you measuring?Jake":kbiynws3 said:
Semen sale $
Total value of offspring produced?
Economic impact of offspring from all farms combined?
The Holstein bull Pawnee Farm Arlinda Chief produced 2 million great granddaughters and 14% of holsteins
in the USA descend from him. His economic impact was estimated in 2016 at $30 billion dollars over 50 years.
That averages to 600 million per year (900 million per average 18 month period) or $1,643,835 per day
every single day for 50 years!
No beef bull could ever hold a candle to good old Chief in terms of economic impact.
Jake
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I was really only considering beef bulls and those selling registered progeny. Obviously some of the super ai bulls have likely produced more total $$ of cattle.Son of Butch":2qkdj296 said:
And I'm not a Charlo fan. I won't use him. Just find interesting
