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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby gizmom » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:01 pm

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We have a Final Answer son that we started using as a yearling on heifers.

AAA 17844591 Gizmo FA 1339 658 0035
Sex: B Tatt: 1339 Tag: 1339 Birth Dt: 09/25/2013 ET
Dam Tag: 658 Dam: AAA 14913872
Sire Tag: 0035 Sire: AAA 13592905

He is moderate but throws such mass,bone and depth I can’t help but like him. His daughters are making really nice females and his sons look like bulls. Another plus is his temperament he is just easy to get along with. As a two year old we moved him up to cover the two and three year old cows, last year he covered the mature cow group and that is where he will be this season. Final Answer wasn’t perfect but he was pretty dang good.

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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby elkwc » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:53 am

From the progeny I've seen I agree. He sure had the mass and depth that many Angus are lacking today. Also a lot of consistency in his progeny.
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby gizmom » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:23 am

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I found a photo of the FA son wave been up, he is throwing some nice calves.

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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby Dogs and Cows » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:39 am

gizmom wrote:Elk

I found a photo of the FA son wave been up, he is throwing some nice calves.

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Gizmom, is it the sun in the photo or is his tail white??

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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:53 am

I was wondering the same thing????
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby gizmom » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:18 am

I think it is a sun thing, but it dang sure looks white. I promise you he is DNA tested for parentage he is Angus. :D

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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:10 pm

Good looking bull, BTW
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby elkwc » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:29 pm

gizmom wrote:Elk

I found a photo of the FA son wave been up, he is throwing some nice calves.

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Thanks for the picture. He looks very similar to 2 FA sons I looked at and wish I had bought one. Was concerned about their frame size but a lot of bull in a moderate package.
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby Bullitt » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:42 pm

gizmom wrote:Elk

I found a photo of the FA son wave been up, he is throwing some nice calves.

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The bull looks like he's having a talk with his son. :)
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby gizmom » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:07 am

Our son said we need to move him after this breeding season, I have an issue doing that he is just so easy to work with and his calves look great. The good news is I put the last two eggs in out of the flush that produced him and got one bull calf on the ground. So I have a replacement for him.

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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:23 pm

Replacement with an embryo sib??? Same genetics. Why replace a mature bull that is doing great & great disposition with a full sib? I don't understand why?
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby Bestoutwest » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:51 pm

gizmom wrote:Elk

I found a photo of the FA son wave been up, he is throwing some nice calves.

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I don't know how a bull like that can't throw nice calves. He's a good looking dude!
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby gizmom » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:25 pm

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Replacement with the full sib probably won’t happen. We have a commercial customer that loves to buy our four year old bulls and we like to use yearling bulls on our heifers. 1339 has a -2.9 birth weight with a +14 CED which I love for heifers but to be honest I like to use a bull with more birth weight on the mature cows.I don’t want to use an older bull on heifers due to his size and weight. My reasoning and it could be totally flawed is that if I retain heifers I am then stacking low birth genetics. So if the full brother works out he would be a sleep all night heifer bull but he would also be breeding paternal siblings so probably will not get picked for the job. I am constantly studying the bull calves to see who our next herd sire will be. I have hit some home runs and confess screwed up big time as well! The truth is until you get heifers into production you really don’t know if you made a good or bad decision.

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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby elkwc » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:26 pm

Gizmom what price range do you price the 4 y/o bulls in. I would prefer to buy an older bull but haven't had any success. I prefer a bull I can see some of his progeny and also old enough that I know how he will mature. Depending on the bull I have offered 3,500-4,500 for 3-5 y/o bulls and have never got one. I only know of one of them that ever sold as a bull. The others are either still standing in the pasture or already ground up. It is hard to understand another persons reasoning at times.
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Re: Headed to our after Thanksgiving Sale,

Postby gizmom » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:56 pm

You would be in the right price range of 3500 to 4500 for this bull. We look at the current market to figure pricing. The customer I told you about comes once a year to look at our calf crop, then usually purchases two or three young bulls and one of our older bulls that we are turning over. We rarely keep a bull past three seasons.

Edited to add, we do know our bulls have some longevity we have sold a few that we know are still getting the job done at 10 and 11 years old.

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