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Re: How Long

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:07 pm

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Bright Raven wrote:Structural problems do exist in a world economy where only a small minority control a majority of the wealth. The problem is acknowledged but no solutions have been offered that I am aware of.


How do you fix it, though? Through legislation? Through violent uprising? I know that some offer a "stop shopping there" approach, but that isn't working for Walmart, Amazon, McDonald's etc. And honestly, is someone taken off the street worth more than minimum wage? What I'd really like to see is an increase in the corporate tax rate and massive decrease for self-employed folks (plumbers, electricians, etc.).



Corporations don't pay taxes they collect them from us.
Any tax put on a corporation is passed on to the consumer, that is how we got on this road to socialism.
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Re: How Long

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:08 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Structural problems do exist in a world economy where only a small minority control a majority of the wealth. The problem is acknowledged but no solutions have been offered that I am aware of.


How do you fix it, though? Through legislation? Through violent uprising? I know that some offer a "stop shopping there" approach, but that isn't working for Walmart, Amazon, McDonald's etc. And honestly, is someone taken off the street worth more than minimum wage? What I'd really like to see is an increase in the corporate tax rate and massive decrease for self-employed folks (plumbers, electricians, etc.).


Arrest the 50 most wealthy Americans, sentence them to 20 years of hard labor serving Big Macs at McDonald's and use their wealth to pay off the national debt. You would see the economy roar like a lion with the weight of that debt off its back. :cowboy:
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Re: How Long

Postby Rafter S » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:14 pm

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Bestoutwest wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Structural problems do exist in a world economy where only a small minority control a majority of the wealth. The problem is acknowledged but no solutions have been offered that I am aware of.


How do you fix it, though? Through legislation? Through violent uprising? I know that some offer a "stop shopping there" approach, but that isn't working for Walmart, Amazon, McDonald's etc. And honestly, is someone taken off the street worth more than minimum wage? What I'd really like to see is an increase in the corporate tax rate and massive decrease for self-employed folks (plumbers, electricians, etc.).


Arrest the 50 most wealthy Americans, sentence them to 20 years of hard labor serving Big Macs at McDonald's and use their wealth to pay off the national debt. You would see the economy roar like a lion with the weight of that debt off its back. :cowboy:


Why stop with the top 50? Arrest all the people that have accomplished something with hard work, good decisions, and sacrifice, and distribute everything they've earned among the poor people. That'll fix the problem overnight. Everyone will be equal. :bang:
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Re: How Long

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:15 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Structural problems do exist in a world economy where only a small minority control a majority of the wealth. The problem is acknowledged but no solutions have been offered that I am aware of.


How do you fix it, though? Through legislation? Through violent uprising? I know that some offer a "stop shopping there" approach, but that isn't working for Walmart, Amazon, McDonald's etc. And honestly, is someone taken off the street worth more than minimum wage? What I'd really like to see is an increase in the corporate tax rate and massive decrease for self-employed folks (plumbers, electricians, etc.).



Corporations don't pay taxes they collect them from us.
Any tax put on a corporation is passed on to the consumer, that is how we got on this road to socialism.


If I am allowed to disagree OH GREAT ONE.

Socialism began with the post-depression Roosevelt policies. Everyone looked to the federal government for a solution. As you have mentioned yourself, programs like CCC put the government in charge of providing employment. Then came Social Securtiy with the concept that Uncle Sam could take care of us like one big family.

The truth is, we are all on the government TEAT. Who does not use federal highways? Who doesn't participate in Social Security? Who doesn't get Medicare, etc.
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Re: How Long

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:17 pm

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Bright Raven wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:
How do you fix it, though? Through legislation? Through violent uprising? I know that some offer a "stop shopping there" approach, but that isn't working for Walmart, Amazon, McDonald's etc. And honestly, is someone taken off the street worth more than minimum wage? What I'd really like to see is an increase in the corporate tax rate and massive decrease for self-employed folks (plumbers, electricians, etc.).


Arrest the 50 most wealthy Americans, sentence them to 20 years of hard labor serving Big Macs at McDonald's and use their wealth to pay off the national debt. You would see the economy roar like a lion with the weight of that debt off its back. :cowboy:


Why stop with the top 50? Arrest all the people that have accomplished something with hard work, good decisions, and sacrifice, and distribute everything they've earned among the poor people. That'll fix the problem overnight. Everyone will be equal. :bang:


Jesus, help me!!! I have never seen so many people who Cannot recognize humor as there are on this board!!!
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Re: How Long

Postby Rafter S » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:20 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Rafter S wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Arrest the 50 most wealthy Americans, sentence them to 20 years of hard labor serving Big Macs at McDonald's and use their wealth to pay off the national debt. You would see the economy roar like a lion with the weight of that debt off its back. :cowboy:


Why stop with the top 50? Arrest all the people that have accomplished something with hard work, good decisions, and sacrifice, and distribute everything they've earned among the poor people. That'll fix the problem overnight. Everyone will be equal. :bang:


Jesus, help me!!! I have never seen so many people who Cannot recognize humor as there are on this board!!!


I hope he will, but sometimes it's hard for the rest of us to tell.
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Re: How Long

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:25 pm

Rafter S wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
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Why stop with the top 50? Arrest all the people that have accomplished something with hard work, good decisions, and sacrifice, and distribute everything they've earned among the poor people. That'll fix the problem overnight. Everyone will be equal. :bang:


Jesus, help me!!! I have never seen so many people who Cannot recognize humor as there are on this board!!!


I hope he will, but sometimes it's hard for the rest of us to tell.


I was being facetious with Best. I have no idea how to resolve the disproportionate distribution of wealth that is occurring world wide. It is a problem and even conservative economist have addressed some ink at it.
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Re: How Long

Postby Bestoutwest » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:26 pm

Rafter S wrote:I hope he will, but sometimes it's hard for the rest of us to tell.


The serving Big Macs should have tipped you off.
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Re: How Long

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:34 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Structural problems do exist in a world economy where only a small minority control a majority of the wealth. The problem is acknowledged but no solutions have been offered that I am aware of.


How do you fix it, though? Through legislation? Through violent uprising? I know that some offer a "stop shopping there" approach, but that isn't working for Walmart, Amazon, McDonald's etc. And honestly, is someone taken off the street worth more than minimum wage? What I'd really like to see is an increase in the corporate tax rate and massive decrease for self-employed folks (plumbers, electricians, etc.).


Nice to see we finally found the one guy outside crazy Bernie who thinks raising corporate taxes is a good idea.

Brilliant!
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Re: How Long

Postby Rafter S » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:43 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Rafter S wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Jesus, help me!!! I have never seen so many people who Cannot recognize humor as there are on this board!!!


I hope he will, but sometimes it's hard for the rest of us to tell.


I was being facetious with Best. I have no idea how to resolve the disproportionate distribution of wealth that is occurring world wide. It is a problem and even conservative economist have addressed some ink at it.


You're right, I should have known that you weren't serious, but there are a frightening number of people who'd think that was a good idea. As far as solving the problem, I don't know how to solve it either, but I do believe stopping the current practice of punishing people for working hard, sacrificing, and making good decisions (and rewarding the ones that do the opposite) would be a step in the right direction. Despite popular belief, most of the rich people got there on their own, and it wasn't from stabbing the "little people" in the back (at least in this country).
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Re: How Long

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:45 pm

Rafter S wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Rafter S wrote:
I hope he will, but sometimes it's hard for the rest of us to tell.


I was being facetious with Best. I have no idea how to resolve the disproportionate distribution of wealth that is occurring world wide. It is a problem and even conservative economist have addressed some ink at it.


You're right, I should have known that you weren't serious, but there are a frightening number of people who'd think that was a good idea. As far as solving the problem, I don't know how to solve it either, but I do believe stopping the current practice of punishing people for working hard, sacrificing, and making good decisions (and rewarding the ones that do the opposite) would be a step in the right direction. Despite popular belief, most of the rich people got there on their own, and it wasn't from stabbing the "little people" in the back (at least in this country).


I agree entirely.
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Re: How Long

Postby Bestoutwest » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:00 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:Nice to see we finally found the one guy outside crazy Bernie who thinks raising corporate taxes is a good idea.

Brilliant!


Oh because lowering them has been a good idea? What's your suggestion?
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Re: How Long

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:13 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:Nice to see we finally found the one guy outside crazy Bernie who thinks raising corporate taxes is a good idea.

Brilliant!


Oh because lowering them has been a good idea? What's your suggestion?


Ireland seems to think so.
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Re: How Long

Postby Hunter » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:25 pm

All I know is that it is easier to spend other peoples money than it is your own.
There is a reason why there is so much wasted tax payers dollars. But the senators and representatives only care about themselves with their big money friends being a close second.
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Re: How Long

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:41 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:
How do you fix it, though? Through legislation? Through violent uprising? I know that some offer a "stop shopping there" approach, but that isn't working for Walmart, Amazon, McDonald's etc. And honestly, is someone taken off the street worth more than minimum wage? What I'd really like to see is an increase in the corporate tax rate and massive decrease for self-employed folks (plumbers, electricians, etc.).



Corporations don't pay taxes they collect them from us.
Any tax put on a corporation is passed on to the consumer, that is how we got on this road to socialism.


If I am allowed to disagree OH GREAT ONE.

Socialism began with the post-depression Roosevelt policies. Everyone looked to the federal government for a solution. As you have mentioned yourself, programs like CCC put the government in charge of providing employment. Then came Social Securtiy with the concept that Uncle Sam could take care of us like one big family.

The truth is, we are all on the government TEAT. Who does not use federal highways? Who doesn't participate in Social Security? Who doesn't get Medicare, etc.



Got it wrong again the socialism train left the station under Woodrow Wilson.
FDR was just following along.
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