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Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby crop hail » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:45 pm

How do I get rid of moss or algae in stock ponds or "tanks" as we call them in Texas? Ive heard you can put nitrogen in them and the moss will grow itself to death, if so, how much? What do yall do for it? It makes it difficult for my kids to fish and I spend all my time getting them untangled and out of the moss and not fishing myself!!!!!

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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby TexasBred » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:08 pm

I've used copper sulfate. Cover about 25% of the surface each day for 4 days. I just broadcast it by hand. Works for me.
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby Jogeephus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:44 pm

Be careful, if you kill too much of it at one time it will die and rot and suck the 02 out of the water and cause a fish kill.
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby callmefence » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:29 pm

Good to see you back crop.

It's my understanding that fertilizer works by causing a algae bloom. The murky water chokes out sunlight causing the underwater plants to die.

The method that works well for me is cattle. They get in the water murking it up causing the same effect. They also will eat some vegetation.

I've also used round-up. Like jo mentioned you don't want to kill but a small area at one time. Spray as soon as the moss reaches the surface, before hot weather. Aireation will spraying is also a good idea. I have a aeration system that runs all summer and cost me less than 300.00 (requires electric) just ask and I'll be happy to detail it.

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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby TCRanch » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:09 pm

Crop, below is an old post of mine about controlling algae. We ended up just dumping a little Clorox in the tank, the other stuff is specifically for ponds.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=99742&hilit=algae

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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby talltimber » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:06 pm

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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby dun » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:25 pm

For algae don;t use copper sulfate. It will wipe out the algae but also kill the fish. Got the shirt
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby crop hail » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:02 am

Aeration is out of the question. Long way to electricity for any of the 8 different tanks on our place. Round up or nitrogen not a problem. Thanks for the replys

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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby dun » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:16 am

As long as the cows continue to have direct access to it you will get the algae. Seems it has to do with the fertility of the water from them crapping in it.
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby callmefence » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:27 am

dun wrote:As long as the cows continue to have direct access to it you will get the algae. Seems it has to do with the fertility of the water from them crapping in it.



Where do you get this information?
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby TexasBred » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:33 am

Jogeephus wrote:Be careful, if you kill too much of it at one time it will die and rot and suck the 02 out of the water and cause a fish kill.

True...reason to only do part of the pond at a time.
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby M-5 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:37 am

callmefence wrote:
dun wrote:As long as the cows continue to have direct access to it you will get the algae. Seems it has to do with the fertility of the water from them crapping in it.



Where do you get this information?


I thought everyone knew this but there are lost of publications on it and it was before the advent of fake news.

http://www.cattletoday.com/archive/2009 ... 1910.shtml
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby callmefence » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:45 am

M-5 wrote:
callmefence wrote:
dun wrote:As long as the cows continue to have direct access to it you will get the algae. Seems it has to do with the fertility of the water from them crapping in it.



Where do you get this information?


I thought everyone knew this but there are lost of publications on it and it was before the advent of fake news.

http://www.cattletoday.com/archive/2009 ... 1910.shtml



I will agree manure may add to algae. Maybe I misinterpreted dun.
But algae is beneficial and does not foul a hook. Cattle muddy the water which chokes out the sunlight. Causing moss not to grow.
Plants need sunlight to grow.
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby Jogeephus » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:08 am

crop hail wrote:How do I get rid of moss or algae in stock ponds or "tanks" as we call them in Texas? Ive heard you can put nitrogen in them and the moss will grow itself to death, if so, how much? What do yall do for it? It makes it difficult for my kids to fish and I spend all my time getting them untangled and out of the moss and not fishing myself!!!!!


I believe you are faced with two problems. You mention moss and algae which are two separate problems in my view. It was a common practice here in clear water lakes to add fertilizer to ponds to make them green up. This would reduce the amount of light reaching the bottom and prevent moss and other aquatic weeds from establishing themselves. However, the algae scum stuff just floats around so providing nitrogen will only make this grow faster because you are essentially feeding it whether this food is coming from the cow manure or fertilizer.

In your situation it sounds like you need to address both these problems. Limiting your cattle's access to the pond would be a good start along with the use of some of the recommendations that have been made. If you are successful, it might be a better idea to use blue dye in the water once things are cleared up.
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Re: Moss in Stock Ponds

Postby callmefence » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:23 am

Never seen anybody fence off their tanks.
Maybe I oughtta get behind this nonsense.
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