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F1 question.

Postby Arrmstrong01 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:51 am

I run a small herd 20 head my plan is to breed my herefords and Angus to a brahma. Keep the F1 heifers. Once old enough breed the heifers to a charlaois will the charlaois calves loose the ear and naval, being in N.Y. you don't see to many ear cattle this way. Our cows are under cover in winter. This is all just an idea I'm trying to get some insight on. Or am I wasting my time.
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Re: F1 question.

Postby WalnutCrest » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:57 pm

Brahma influenced cattle may not winter as well as other breeds.

Caustic Burno will tell you that the F1 tigerstripe mama (Brahma / Hereford) is the queen of south Texas. NY state? Not so much.

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Re: F1 question.

Postby Arrmstrong01 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:08 pm

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Even being in a barn they don't do well? I mean I know they are a heat tolerant breed but My little setup is way different than a lot of big places. We have stanchions turn cows out every other day in the winter providing its not snowing and blowing.

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Re: F1 question.

Postby SIMMGAL » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:21 pm

What's the market like up there for Brahma influence? Might hurt ya in the long run at the sale barn. I know for example that reds get docked around here and it sure does sting worse when the market is like it is. I'm not in a good place to give you Brah advice since I don't run any over here though!

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Re: F1 question.

Postby WalnutCrest » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:32 pm

Arrmstrong01 wrote:WalnutCrest
Even being in a barn they don't do well? I mean I know they are a heat tolerant breed but My little setup is way different than a lot of big places. We have stanchions turn cows out every other day in the winter providing its not snowing and blowing.


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Re: F1 question.

Postby Boot Jack Bulls » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:19 pm

If you don't see many of them in your area, there is a reason! It means someone else has taken the guess work out of it for you. Look at what is popular in your area and what sells well at the barn. Don't reinvent the wheel here!
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Re: F1 question.

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:05 pm

WalnutCrest wrote:Brahma influenced cattle may not winter as well as other breeds.

Caustic Burno will tell you that the F1 tigerstripe mama (Brahma / Hereford) is the queen of south Texas. NY state? Not so much.

Good luck.


Yep and you are looking at a train wreck breeding a Brahman bull to English cattle birth weights are increased in bull calves.
You do it the other way around English bull over Brahman cattle BW is decreased.
Secondly Brimmers in NY is crazy maybe a 1/4 or an 1/8 you could get away with.
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Re: F1 question.

Postby Rafter S » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:05 pm

If you want some Brahman influence you might want to think about Brangus instead of straight Brahman.
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Re: F1 question.

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:07 pm

Rafter S wrote:If you want some Brahman influence you might want to think about Brangus instead of straight Brahman.


Or Angus plus
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Re: F1 question.

Postby Arrmstrong01 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:42 pm

Well I've definitely learned a lot folks thank you for the information I'm sure I will have other questions. The bull at the top is the sire to this heifer I bought her off a guy couple towns over he was running that bull on hereford, highlanders x herfs, Holstein brahma cross, couple Angus. I mean since I've bought her I've done a lot of reading on them but just found this site a week ago and registered last night. Figure this is where I'm gonna learn the best info from people that have the experience.
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Re: F1 question.

Postby Bigfoot » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:59 pm

I love Brahman and Brahman cross cattle, but I stop myself at 3/8 and 1/4. I'm in Ky, and my temps could probably handle some more, but my market can't.
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Re: F1 question.

Postby Arrmstrong01 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:09 pm

I love the looks of them seen a video on YouTube guys names clyd he had a whole mess of them

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Re: F1 question.

Postby Son of Butch » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:39 pm

Brahman in the North East?
Did you come up with this idea on your own?
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Re: F1 question.

Postby Son of Butch » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Arrmstrong01 wrote:This is all just an idea I'm trying to get some insight on.
Or am I wasting my time.

Waste of time.
Missed your question on first reading due to innovative idea of using a period for a question mark.
Which also makes as much sense as Brahman in New York.

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Re: F1 question.

Postby wacocowboy » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:10 am

Texas cattle operation in NY interesting. Good luck
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