Ethanol

[Fred]

Like I said, do a search on phase separation. I use it in my car when I have to, but not my small engines.

[inbredredneck]

25 years ago I heard all the same propoganda about the bad ethanol, the same propoganda that you fellas in the south are hearing now. After 20 years of daily use it bacame apparant to everyone that it was nothing but propoganda.

You southern boys are biting on the hook just like they had hoped. These people are telling you what is going to happen IF and WHEN you use it even though they have not used it for the last 20 years.

On the other had I have been trying to to tell you what is going to happen after using it for 20 years. Take it from there. Ask ol E10 from Missiouri about E10, he claimed the stuff was CRAP and his milage went down and a whole list of other things happened, he claimed had never and would never use that crap again. Ironically he had been using the CRAP for atleast a year without any of the problems. Why you ask? Because he didn't know the difference. He bought into the propoganda, but when he was using the product unknowingly he had zero problems or complaints. It is all propoganda. Prior to ethanol being added to gasoline, do you know what was commonly added to gas in the winter in MN to take care of the water in fuel? Alcohol. Propoganada it's a powerful tool, look at BA.

[hooknline]

The alcohol was added to the fuel to bind with water so it could go thru the fuel system instead of sitting on the bottom of the tank. That's equal to the known fact that ethanol absorbs moisture from the air. But what happens when it absorbs more water than its intended purpose?
What happens to the specific gravity of alcohol when it's bound with too much water? It gets heavier, falling out of the gasoline blend.
Absorption of a little water is good. Absorbing more water than it's intended purpose not so much.
But I'm only talking about the dry gas stuff. Not ethanol. Ethanol is great stuff.

If your a corn farmer

[inbredredneck]

Ethanol is great stuff.

Burned several thousand gallons of it have you? Lets hear about your 20 year history of use of the product? I wanna learn from someone with experience burning the stuff.

[hooknline]

I know it's been down here for at least 10 years. Does that count for experience? Don't know how many gallons but figure 35 k miles a year times 10= 350 k miles at 15 mpg avg= 23,333 gallons with 10% being ethanol so that's what, 2333 gallons of nothing but ethanol. Now that's only in one truck. Don't forget equipment , boat, lawn mower. So a safe bet of 2500 gallons of ethanol.
So inbred. Is that enough experience for you?

[inbredredneck]

If it is so bad why did the gas suppliers voluntarily blend it for 9 years prior to the mandate in Florida?

[hooknline]

Because we are just a wider audience to test it in our environment. That and the EPA had the mandate to replace the mtbe by a certain year. Gas companies and suppliers had no choice but to comply.

[inbredredneck]

Because we are just a wider audience to test it in our environment. That and the EPA had the mandate to replace the mtbe by a certain year. Gas companies and suppliers had no choice but to comply.

They had other choices.

[hooknline]

They didn't use them then.

[mwj]

They didn't use them then.

Why? Do you think they would choose an inferior product just to agitate there customers?

[hooknline]

Most likely because they had so much money tied up in ethanol research, subsidies etc. I posted a link to an article on the same subject that would answer your question.

[fatcattle]

Inbred, have you ever traveled? I don't think you can fully understand the difference in climate if you haven't been through a southern summer. Especially where hooknline is at.

[inbredredneck]

Inbred, have you ever traveled? I don't think you can fully understand the difference in climate if you haven't been through a southern summer. Especially where hooknline is at.

Yes I have, but even if I have not traveled, the facts remain unchanged. Orlando is no higher RH than my town, in MN. Some are making the claim RH is the problem, when it is not, move on to the next excuse, the anti ethanol propoganda machine is sure to have another reason.

[hooknline]

Is it propoganda if the gvt, by their own admission, has a problem with it.
Is it propoganda when left and right people are having problems from using it where they didnt before. Yet you never have.
Btw inbred, you never answered my question wether or not have I've demonstrated I have enough experience in your opinion to have a qualified stance

[inbredredneck]

Is it propoganda if the gvt, by their own admission, has a problem with it.
Is it propoganda when left and right people are having problems from using it where they didnt before. Yet you never have.
Btw inbred, you never answered my question wether or not have I've demonstrated I have enough experience in your opinion to have a qualified stance

No. How many times have you needed to fix the fuel system in that truck in the last 10 years?