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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby Jogeephus » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:32 pm

VanC wrote:
Jogeephus wrote:It depends on what you think is good beef. Some people like it lean but I like it marbled well. With that in mind I've always thought it would be good to cross a charolais with a wagyu. Was gonna try that a couple of years ago but I got sidetracked on another project. Thanks for the reminder. Just bumped it up my list.


This isn't a very large sampling, Jo, but it seemed to work for this guy:

http://www.lonemountaincattle.com/charolais_cross.html


Thanks Van. Yeah, it looks pretty good to me and from the homework I did a while back I'm pretty sure I won't have to become a buddhist monk and start making beer and I won't have to hire a masseuse. I think it would be an interesting experiment.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby tonyb » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:22 pm

Yeah, it looks pretty good to me and from the homework I did a while back I'm pretty sure I won't have to become a buddhist monk and start making beer and I won't have to hire a masseuse.


I'm ok with the making beer part. Don't know if I could muster the strength to pour a perfectly good beer into a feed bucket though.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:02 pm

Alan wrote:
tonyb wrote:This is kind of a pie in the sky question, but if you could forget about commercial issues (i.e. if money were no object), how would you produce the best eating beef? What breeds, what crosses, what feed, slaughter age, and anything else that I'm forgetting?

I'm from the north, so I'm kind of curious how this would work in our region (upper Great Lakes) where we have dense cool season forages half of the year, and feed hay the other half.


This just my opinion on what it takes for good beef in the freezer. A steer from a cow and bull with good carcass traits to start with, there are plenty out there.

9 months in the womb.
24 months on forage and hay, like you we are about 6 months on both.
3 months on hay or forage after worming and building up to heavy grain with a strong corn base grain, I use a basic 12% stock grain and mix it 50/50 with rolled corn to increase fat and hopefully marbling
18 to 21 days hanging in a cold room
1 day to pick up cut and wrapped beef up from slaughter house
1 day to thaw out a couple of T-Bones and bar-b-que with a baked potatoe with the works and corn and a cold drink! 8)

So if I did the math right, 3 years, 3 weeks and two days.

Alan


Alan,

Why in the heck would anyone bar-b-que a T-Bone? That seems like a complete waste to me.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby 3waycross » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:28 pm

Alan,

Why in the heck would anyone bar-b-que a T-Bone? That seems like a complete waste to me.[/quote]

How do you prepare a TBone
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby hooknline » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:42 pm

Didn't you know 3way, you deep fry em
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby Isomade » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:45 pm

3waycross wrote:Alan,

Why in the heck would anyone bar-b-que a T-Bone? That seems like a complete waste to me.


How do you prepare a TBone[/quote]
I thinK its a difference of terminology, when we say bar-b-que in e south we think of BBQ sauce. Generally what further north is referred to as BBQ we call grilling.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:01 pm

Isomade wrote:
3waycross wrote:Alan,

Why in the heck would anyone bar-b-que a T-Bone? That seems like a complete waste to me.


How do you prepare a TBone

I thinK its a difference of terminology, when we say bar-b-que in e south we think of BBQ sauce. Generally what further north is referred to as BBQ we call grilling.[/quote]

My steaks go on the grill. No bar-b-que involved.

Bar-b-que goes in the smoker and usually consists of ribs, pig, brisket, chicken etc. There's bar-b-que sauce involved. Plenty of it.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby 3waycross » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:05 pm

backhoeboogie wrote:
Isomade wrote:
3waycross wrote:Alan,

Why in the heck would anyone bar-b-que a T-Bone? That seems like a complete waste to me.


How do you prepare a TBone

I thinK its a difference of terminology, when we say bar-b-que in e south we think of BBQ sauce. Generally what further north is referred to as BBQ we call grilling.


My steaks go on the grill. No bar-b-que involved.

Bar-b-que goes in the smoker and usually consists of ribs, pig, brisket, chicken etc. There's bar-b-que sauce involved. Plenty of it.[/quote]


In your neighborhood! However when we go to a BBQ restaurant we don't expect to get GRILLED meat!

NOW let's have a big ole fight over semantics! or do you call it normanclature
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby backhoeboogie » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:41 pm

Bar-B-Que restuarants generally serve Bar-B-Que in a whole lot of places besides my neighborhood.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby Isomade » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:44 pm

I invented BBQ. Now both of ya hush.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby TexasBred » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:48 pm

Isomade wrote:I invented BBQ. Now both of ya hush.

The he77 you say.....you came over the river and stole the recipe from the mezkins. :lol2:
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby Isomade » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:56 pm

TexasBred wrote:
Isomade wrote:I invented BBQ. Now both of ya hush.

The he77 you say.....you came over the river and stole the recipe from the mezkins. :lol2:


The following is from about.com

To barbecue means to slow-cook meat at a low temperature for a long time over wood or charcoal. In America, barbecue (or BBQ) originated in the late 1800's during Western cattle drives. The cowboys were fed the less than perfect cuts of meat, often brisket, a tough and stringy piece of meat that required five to seven hours of cooking to tenderize. Other barbecue meats used were pork butt, pork ribs, beef ribs, venison and goat. Barbecue was actually invented by a great, and very handsome cattleman known only as Isomade.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:02 pm

TexasBred wrote:
Isomade wrote:I invented BBQ. Now both of ya hush.

The he77 you say.....you came over the river and stole the recipe from the mezkins. :lol2:



Aint no way between Mezkins and Texican's when he showed up they would have whupped him back north across the river like a pee waddling dog.
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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby TexasBred » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:03 pm

Isomade wrote:To barbecue means to slow-cook meat at a low temperature for a long time over wood or charcoal. In America, barbecue (or BBQ) originated in the late 1800's during Western cattle drives. The cowboys were fed the less than perfect cuts of meat, often brisket, a tough and stringy piece of meat that required five to seven hours of cooking to tenderize. Other barbecue meats used were pork butt, pork ribs, beef ribs, venison and goat. Barbecue was actually invented by a great, and very handsome cattleman known only as Isomade.


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Re: How to produce the best eating beef

Postby hooknline » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:04 pm

The following is from about.com

To barbecue means to slow-cook meat at a low temperature for a long time over wood or charcoal. In America, barbecue (or BBQ) originated in the late 1800's during Western cattle drives. The cowboys were fed the less than perfect cuts of meat, often brisket, a tough and stringy piece of meat that required five to seven hours of cooking to tenderize. Other barbecue meats used were pork butt, pork ribs, beef ribs, venison and goat. Barbecue was actually invented by a great, and very handsome cattleman known only as Isomade. Although the validity of the claim is unverified because this Isomade was always seen tending the fire in his leopard tube sock and pom poms


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