How to produce the best eating beef

[inbredredneck]

Alan,no offense, but 799 # out of a 1550 live animal is not very good. I just took 2 grain & hay fed, 15 month old Hereford steers to slaughter that weighed 2780 ( the afternoon before & stood empty until the next morning kill ) & their combined carcass wts. were 1606

Hereford I have read alot of Aarons posts he doesn't bull be nice those are probably correct numbers.

[HEREFORD ROADHOG]

Take a angus, Hereford,and any other major beef breed raise them to 30 months and the same relative size on the same good feed and care, then take their hides off and tell me which breed is which.

Alan

Who has the time,money & space to keep slaughter cattle for 2 1/2 years ? That's twice as long as needed. But I do agree,very few if any could tell a difference. ( except that the Hereford carcass would look better )

I do, well not so much money, the last one I had done had a 1000 lb hanging weight and my buyers pay by the lb. Big steaks big roast lot of hamburger.

Plus I'm sure your reply was to Aaron not me before this one.

Alan[/quote
Sorry about that Alan, I fixed that post. H-Roadhog.

[HEREFORD ROADHOG]

Alan,no offense, but 799 # out of a 1550 live animal is not very good. I just took 2 grain & hay fed, 15 month old Hereford steers to slaughter that weighed 2780 ( the afternoon before & stood empty until the next morning kill ) & their combined carcass wts. were 1606

Hereford I have read alot of Aarons posts he doesn't bull be nice those are probably correct numbers.

Not saying he bulls Inbred. Just saying that those numbers don't add up to a very good yield.

[Aaron]

Take a angus, Hereford,and any other major beef breed raise them to 30 months and the same relative size on the same good feed and care, then take their hides off and tell me which breed is which.

Alan

Who has the time,money & space to keep slaughter cattle for 2 1/2 years ? That's twice as long as needed. But I do agree,very few if any could tell a difference. ( except that the Hereford carcass would look better )

I do, well not so much money, the last one I had done had a 1000 lb hanging weight and my buyers pay by the lb. Big steaks big roast lot of hamburger.

Plus I'm sure your reply was to Aaron not me before this one.

Alan

I don't think it was, but so be it. It's not difficult to keep a 2 1/2 year old at all. When your running over 100 head, 1 extra makes no significant difference. I breed at 1 1/2, so anything that shows up open get's kept for another pasture season and some extra loving. I have no problem going the extra mile for something that is going to be mine to enjoy. I see people serve old cow and bull, and unfinished beef on tables...and just wonder, why? We never serve any beef to anyone but our best...and you can't rush perfection.

H-RoadHog, you must have some massive frames on those Herefords to get 1000 lb carcasses. I remember in 4-H, good Simmental steers pushing 1700 live weight with 980 lb carcasses. Definitely not a type-size of animal I'm trying to breed.

[hooknline]

They aren't fed beer. But they are finished for 399-600 days on corn, barleys, wheat.And is upwards of 200 bucks a lb. not 200 a steak.

Wrong again Hook,imagine that! Kobi beef IS fed "pleniful amounts" of beer.

Not the first time. Not the last. I didn't know much about Kobe so I looked it up. the first few sites I read said nothing about slings, or beer. I suspect it's choice thing over there. Kinda like grass finished vs grain finished here. Don't know tho.
It's good to see you haven't lost your hard on for me

[Crazy Farmgirl]

Personal taste will differ but this is mine:

Herford raised on rotatioal grazing and good hay. I prefer to butcher after 90+ days on summer pasture at 26-30 months.

[Alan]

Aaron, that steer was a bigger framed animal than I like. His mama is the biggest cow I have and the oldest. She always seems to make the cull cut for some reason or another, she was number one on the list last spring then dropped a great little heifer out of a very good AI bull, so I'm off to give her and the rest hay in a few minutes. She's number two on the list this year. But like you I'm going for smaller thicker cattle. I just have granny and a older daughter of hers left who are bigger framed, this heifer looks to be more in line to what I want.

Oh and like you I like a good ring of fat on my steaks when I cook them, he's one of the best I've done.

Alan

[Alan]

So now that we are in good conversation, with good info, I raise Polled Herefords, for any that didn't know that already.

Alan

[inbredredneck]

Alan,no offense, but 799 # out of a 1550 live animal is not very good. I just took 2 grain & hay fed, 15 month old Hereford steers to slaughter that weighed 2780 ( the afternoon before & stood empty until the next morning kill ) & their combined carcass wts. were 1606

Hereford I have read alot of Aarons posts he doesn't bull be nice those are probably correct numbers.

Not saying he bulls Inbred. Just saying that those numbers don't add up to a very good yield.

Correct the numbers were not good. 51.5% is maybe a bit lower, than where I'm aiming on the target.

[dieselbeef]

51% in pkgs aint bad at all

[inbredredneck]

51% in pkgs aint bad at all

Maybe not but it is 12% less than you get from that crappy store bought beef.

[dieselbeef]

so yer tellin methat the crappy store meat animals are yielding over 60% cut and wrapped...must be alotta what we cut off and feed to the dogs. my nieghbor does his own butchering too and says its higher yield than my animals...but he also yhangs for 30 days...ummm...yeah right...maybe my butcher is ripping me off...either way inm happy so ! yehaw fer me

[inbredredneck]

so yer tellin methat the crappy store meat animals are yielding over 60% cut and wrapped...must be alotta what we cut off and feed to the dogs. my nieghbor does his own butchering too and says its higher yield than my animals...but he also yhangs for 30 days...ummm...yeah right...maybe my butcher is ripping me off...either way inm happy so ! yehaw fer me

Someday diesel you might figure this whole thing out. It is gonna take awhile though.

[dieselbeef]

i know...on my own ya know..no mentors or exp cattleman round us...all i got is yall...

[inbredredneck]

i know...on my own ya know..no mentors or exp cattleman round us...all i got is yall...

Well I'll help you out here with some knowledge. National dressing % Friday was 63.91 on the steers and 63.85 on the ladies.