What 3 way cross would you do?

by **u4411clb** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:42 pm

Gert x Hereford mommas with a terminal Black Angus bull.

by **expensive hobby** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:56 pm

u4411clb wrote:Gert x Hereford mommas with a terminal Black Angus bull.

Actually I am just getting started with this cross. A family friend runs Gerts and I just loaded a few heifers. So far, I'm not so impressed with them. They have not calved for me yet, but I have been picking up on some of the Gerts negative publicity. They seem to have an "attitude." May just be me but I'm not looking forward to calving season with them. They will probably calm down with hereford thrown on them, and they seem to be impressive in growth. I kind of like Duns suggestion with the Gelbvieh. From what I have been reading, they seem to be a good maternal breed, and quiet....which is a plus.

by **dun** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:46 pm

expensive hobby wrote:
u4411clb wrote:Gert x Hereford mommas with a terminal Black Angus bull.

Actually I am just getting started with this cross. A family friend runs Gerts and I just loaded a few heifers. So far, I'm not so impressed with them. They have not calved for me yet, but I have been picking up on some of the Gerts negative publicity. They seem to have an "attitude." May just be me but I'm not looking forward to calving season with them. They will probably calm down with hereford thrown on them, and they seem to be impressive in growth. I kind of like Duns suggestion with the Gelbvieh. From what I have been reading, they seem to be a good maternal breed, and quiet....which is a plus.

Gerts or for that matter any of the Brahman influenced breeds/cattle take different handling then the usual british or continentals. SLOOOOOOOOOW and easy and they're fine, hoorah them once and you're screwed.

by **Massey135** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:31 pm

Charolais bull over F1 Black Brangus x Shorthorn cows. All 3 way crosses should be terminal.

by **buckeye** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:58 am

right now i do Charolais X Hereford X "Red" Charolais but for a three way i would have to say Hereford X Red Angus or depending preference a black bull...BA, GV, SM, etc then X Charolais.

by **Dylan Biggs** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:06 am

Starting with a clean slate I would do GV RA cows terminal Char if I was certain I could reliably source type and management preference bred heifers.

If raising my own replacements I would stick with RA X Char. Use RA on my heifers and 2 yr olds and solid terminal Char on matures.

by **midtncattle** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:51 am

"If raising my own replacements I would stick with RA X Char. Use RA on my heifers and 2 yr olds and solid terminal Char on matures."

We love our gert x chars, but we sometimes get all white calves when we go back with char bull. Do you experience the same with your crossess.

by **circlew** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:42 am

One day I'm gonna do tigers and throw a char bull on them. Some of the best calves I've ever saw were those crosses.

by **Dylan Biggs** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:50 pm

midtncattle wrote:"If raising my own replacements I would stick with RA X Char. Use RA on my heifers and 2 yr olds and solid terminal Char on matures."

We love our gert x chars, but we sometimes get all white calves when we go back with char bull. Do you experience the same with your crossess.

The original question was "if you could start with a clean slate", our slate is not clean, far from it. My neighbors herd is pretty well a straight Red Angus bunch of cows and he breeds them Char and the vast majority of his calves are buckskins.

by **midtncattle** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:28 pm

We get the bucksin as well. Our gert x char are great mommas, but they kick out white cows many times. I was wondering if you got the same when you took your RA x Char back with Char bull. I am thinking gert x herford then to a char bull to keep my buckskin terminal calves

by **Dylan Biggs** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:52 pm

Ra X Char X Char, more whites for sure unless you use red factor charolais.

http://www.wellscharolaisranch.com/red-factor-bulls.html

by **ABrauny** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:27 pm

Red or Black Angus X Hereford females with a Gelbvieh bull for a terminal sire.

by **expensive hobby** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:30 pm

ABrauny wrote:Red or Black Angus X Hereford females with a Gelbvieh bull for a terminal sire.

Would this give different results than going with Gelbvieh/Hereford females and terminal with an angus bull?

by **Dylan Biggs** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:35 pm

Depends on the bred in functional quality and abilities of the cattle you use. Way more important in my experience then the breed name.

by **MoGal** » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:47 pm

Well I was hoping my hubby would answer differently, but he's stuck on
holstein x angus x hereford OR holstein x hereford x angus

yeah, yeah, yeah I know........

My choice would be: red poll x char x (angus or hereford)

Pity I couldn't dye the hair on a char bull to solid black so I could have some char x calves.... oh well!

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