Price for Finished Beef

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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby inbredredneck » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:09 pm

expensive hobby wrote: Maybe some day I'll be a "real farmer" too. After all, its about learning for me. I just have not learned too much from hedge hog.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby inbredredneck » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:11 pm

1wlimo wrote:just now with prices as they you if you sell an animal for slaughter you could expect in Verginia to recive $1.10 for these animals live. The range seams to be from $0.93 to $1.22 dependant on weight and grade.

So if you now are going to cut and wrap this and then sell the meat this way you need to achive a sale price of $2.44/# just to recive the same back for your animal as you would have sold it for that day at auction!! That is before you figure for the extra costs you incurred by carrying out the slaughter, wrapping etc.

Back to 4th grade here, could you show me the math on that one.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby expensive hobby » Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:50 pm

I'm sure that any one of us can show you the math, but you would never understand it.......certain of that. Maybe go and talk to a poultry farmer. You may be able to learn something from them. Better yet go pick some onions out of a patch and sell them. The math should be fairly straight forward for you. 1 onion for a $1.00 X 4 should be ? Place the correct answer here inbred. Show us all that you have what it takes to pass pre-K.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby Kathie in Thorp » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:19 pm

expensive hobby wrote:I'm sure that any one of us can show you the math, but you would never understand it.......certain of that. Maybe go and talk to a poultry farmer. You may be able to learn something from them. Better yet go pick some onions out of a patch and sell them. The math should be fairly straight forward for you. 1 onion for a $1.00 X 4 should be ? Place the correct answer here inbred. Show us all that you have what it takes to pass pre-K.


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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby fitz » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:48 pm

You getting all this mudfork??

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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby inbredredneck » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:53 pm

expensive hobby wrote:I'm sure that any one of us can show you the math, but you would never understand it.......certain of that. Maybe go and talk to a poultry farmer. You may be able to learn something from them. Better yet go pick some onions out of a patch and sell them. The math should be fairly straight forward for you. 1 onion for a $1.00 X 4 should be ? Place the correct answer here inbred. Show us all that you have what it takes to pass pre-K.
howbouts you take a shot at the math on that one, lets a see if you can pass 4th grade.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby Kathie in Thorp » Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:18 pm

inbredredneck wrote:
expensive hobby wrote:I'm sure that any one of us can show you the math, but you would never understand it.......certain of that. Maybe go and talk to a poultry farmer. You may be able to learn something from them. Better yet go pick some onions out of a patch and sell them. The math should be fairly straight forward for you. 1 onion for a $1.00 X 4 should be ? Place the correct answer here inbred. Show us all that you have what it takes to pass pre-K.
howbouts you take a shot at the math on that one, lets a see if you can pass 4th grade.


Tell me, Inbred -- what's your issue: We are finishing 3 steers this year. Bought them last year, well before winter. We fed them through the winter. Here, both Alfalfa and Orchard grass at about $200/ton -- that's what we feed through the winter. Pasture starts coming on in March; irrigation and related costs hit in April. We move irrigation equipment every-other day in the summer, and look our cattle in the eye every day. We pull the steers off pasture in Sept. to grain and alfalfa finish for 60 days. We don't have storage for bulk grain. This year, we're paying $57.02 for 2 80 lb. bags COB and 1 80 lb. rolled corn. We feed alfalfa and 12 lbs. grain per steer per day. So, we start with those steers at about 5 mos./400 lbs., and raise them for over a year. We know where every one of those steers came from -- it wasn't the sale yard. We have heaters in water tanks through the winter when we run down to -10; the cattle have shelter, and they get the extra feed winter requires, and the extra work to clear snow from around the feeders and in front of the shelters that slide off the roofs. We spray for weeds. We vaccinate, worm those steer calves. We do that for all our cattle. That's why our steers are $2.75/lb. on the rail this year. And for what we do, that's what our buyers want. And I'm not apologizing or making excuses to any one.

Costs will be higher next year. Have one local steer already in place. We have 3 new ones coming in, from a near neighbor in the area -- not from auction -- approx. 400 lbs. each at whatever Toppenish Market is.

You may know a lot about cattle, but I don't think you know everything about what it costs to raise them throughout the USA. You aren't here -- or there -- or in somebody else's shoes.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby expensive hobby » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:23 am

inbredredneck wrote:
expensive hobby wrote:I'm sure that any one of us can show you the math, but you would never understand it.......certain of that. Maybe go and talk to a poultry farmer. You may be able to learn something from them. Better yet go pick some onions out of a patch and sell them. The math should be fairly straight forward for you. 1 onion for a $1.00 X 4 should be ? Place the correct answer here inbred. Show us all that you have what it takes to pass pre-K.
howbouts you take a shot at the math on that one, lets a see if you can pass 4th grade.


Well, if one onion is being sold for $1.00 and you are selling 4 on them then I think that.......ummmmm.....is it $2.99?
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby inbredredneck » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:25 am

expensive hobby wrote:
inbredredneck wrote:
expensive hobby wrote:I'm sure that any one of us can show you the math, but you would never understand it.......certain of that. Maybe go and talk to a poultry farmer. You may be able to learn something from them. Better yet go pick some onions out of a patch and sell them. The math should be fairly straight forward for you. 1 onion for a $1.00 X 4 should be ? Place the correct answer here inbred. Show us all that you have what it takes to pass pre-K.
howbouts you take a shot at the math on that one, lets a see if you can pass 4th grade.


Well, if one onion is being sold for $1.00 and you are selling 4 on them then I think that.......ummmmm.....is it $2.99?

yep see first post on this page.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby LRTX1 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:39 am

manitgotcoldhere. How about you inbred
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby inbredredneck » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:43 am

LRTX1 wrote:manitgotcoldhere. How about you inbred

not yet nice day kinda windy though.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby thommoos » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:39 pm

This is the way i figure it on a Beefmaster/simm live weight X's 65% is you hanging weight, Angus or Jersey live weght X's 60%. 1160*60% +695lbs angus jersey, beefmaster/ simm 1160*65% 754
Then to figure amount of meat multiply 695*85% 754 *85, from my experince. The last 3 years I have butchered 23.
not much success with angus (6), done well with Beefmaster, Char and Simms (15), 2 Jersery Steers. I split mine down to a 1/5 or a 1/6 of a side. Average $3.00 a pound delivered. Plus I usaully keep some for myself.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby HEREFORD ROADHOG » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:37 pm

Kathie in Thorp wrote:
inbredredneck wrote:
expensive hobby wrote:I'm sure that any one of us can show you the math, but you would never understand it.......certain of that. Maybe go and talk to a poultry farmer. You may be able to learn something from them. Better yet go pick some onions out of a patch and sell them. The math should be fairly straight forward for you. 1 onion for a $1.00 X 4 should be ? Place the correct answer here inbred. Show us all that you have what it takes to pass pre-K.
howbouts you take a shot at the math on that one, lets a see if you can pass 4th grade.


Tell me, Inbred -- what's your issue: We are finishing 3 steers this year. Bought them last year, well before winter. We fed them through the winter. Here, both Alfalfa and Orchard grass at about $200/ton -- that's what we feed through the winter. Pasture starts coming on in March; irrigation and related costs hit in April. We move irrigation equipment every-other day in the summer, and look our cattle in the eye every day. We pull the steers off pasture in Sept. to grain and alfalfa finish for 60 days. We don't have storage for bulk grain. This year, we're paying $57.02 for 2 80 lb. bags COB and 1 80 lb. rolled corn. We feed alfalfa and 12 lbs. grain per steer per day. So, we start with those steers at about 5 mos./400 lbs., and raise them for over a year. We know where every one of those steers came from -- it wasn't the sale yard. We have heaters in water tanks through the winter when we run down to -10; the cattle have shelter, and they get the extra feed winter requires, and the extra work to clear snow from around the feeders and in front of the shelters that slide off the roofs. We spray for weeds. We vaccinate, worm those steer calves. We do that for all our cattle. That's why our steers are $2.75/lb. on the rail this year. And for what we do, that's what our buyers want. And I'm not apologizing or making excuses to any one.

Costs will be higher next year. Have one local steer already in place. We have 3 new ones coming in, from a near neighbor in the area -- not from auction -- approx. 400 lbs. each at whatever Toppenish Market is.

You may know a lot about cattle, but I don't think you know everything about what it costs to raise them throughout the USA. You aren't here -- or there -- or in somebody else's shoes.

Kathie, here's a quarter ,call somebody that gives a hoot. Do what I told hookline to do ,if it's too expensive for you, QUIT !! I will give you some credit though, $2.75 is not out of range like
Hooks $4.00, & it's a free country to charge what you want. I think Inbred & myself just would like to see reasonable answers given on this forum when someone asks a question.& at least you admit that costs are rising, as opposed to hook saying he can now do it cheaper than 2 years ago ? :bs: That tells me that he has very little idea of what he's doing.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby Kathie in Thorp » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:02 pm

HRH -- Thanks for giving me "some credit" -- Appreciate that. Also, please see the other post on marketing finished beef. I owed you an apology -- a big one -- which I did, and I hope you accept it. It was sincere. You were wrongly targeted re: a very ugly PM, in the heat of battle.
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Re: Price for Finished Beef

Postby mudfork » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:45 am

Well, I thank yall for the comments. It is helpful. After all this I only have one thing left to say........GO HOKIES!
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