How many days left

[spoon]

is she gonna throw it up... ?

[alexfarms]

This brings up a "story" I was told not long ago. Supposedly, a writer, cattleman and geneticist from...I believe Africa did a stint as a professor at Kansas State and he could tell how long a cow was in gestation just by looking at the cow. Who ever told me this story said they ran cows through a ring and he told them how long they were bred and then they palpated them to check and he never missed. Some of you are bound to have heard the story. Was it Bonsma? I wish I could remember who was telling me this story.

**My memory is coming back....I heard the story at Gene Meitler's conference a couple years ago and he was referring to Jan Bonsma. The man must have been an amazing cattleman with an incredible eye for judging cattle.

[KNERSIE]

This brings up a "story" I was told not long ago. Supposedly, a writer, cattleman and geneticist from...I believe Africa did a stint as a professor at Kansas State and he could tell how long a cow was in gestation just by looking at the cow. Who ever told me this story said they ran cows through a ring and he told them how long they were bred and then they palpated them to check and he never missed. Some of you are bound to have heard the story. Was it Bonsma? I wish I could remember who was telling me this story.

**My memory is coming back....I heard the story at Gene Meitler's conference a couple years ago and he was referring to Jan Bonsma. The man must have been an amazing cattleman with an incredible eye for judging cattle.

He was indeed all of that, but I fear the story got better every time it was told.

[tncattle467]

This brings up a "story" I was told not long ago. Supposedly, a writer, cattleman and geneticist from...I believe Africa did a stint as a professor at Kansas State and he could tell how long a cow was in gestation just by looking at the cow. Who ever told me this story said they ran cows through a ring and he told them how long they were bred and then they palpated them to check and he never missed. Some of you are bound to have heard the story. Was it Bonsma? I wish I could remember who was telling me this story.

**My memory is coming back....I heard the story at Gene Meitler's conference a couple years ago and he was referring to Jan Bonsma. The man must have been an amazing cattleman with an incredible eye for judging cattle.

He was indeed all of that, but I fear the story got better every time it was told.

To bad Bonsma is dead I hear tell he was a good one.

[alacattleman]

This brings up a "story" I was told not long ago. Supposedly, a writer, cattleman and geneticist from...I believe Africa did a stint as a professor at Kansas State and he could tell how long a cow was in gestation just by looking at the cow. Who ever told me this story said they ran cows through a ring and he told them how long they were bred and then they palpated them to check and he never missed. Some of you are bound to have heard the story. Was it Bonsma? I wish I could remember who was telling me this story.

**My memory is coming back....I heard the story at Gene Meitler's conference a couple years ago and he was referring to Jan Bonsma. The man must have been an amazing cattleman with an incredible eye for judging cattle.

He was indeed all of that, but I fear the story got better every time it was told.

To bad Bonsma is dead I hear tell he was a good one.

i hear tell his story got better every time it was told, sorta like jesse james

[goldengoat]

Update. She now is much more narrow. She has been draining a little from the rear side. Also, her hip bones are showing quite a bit. I think it may be tomorrow. Will get some fresh pics in the morning.

[Australian]

Is she in calf?

[tncattle467]

So,


What happened did she calve or not?

[Dixieangus]

yhea were waiting on you

[goldengoat]

Ok, will try to make this quick so I can get back out there to make sure calf sucks. Checked on her at 5:30 this morning. All calm. Went back at 07:30 and just missed it. Blood and guts all over the place. Plus, I could see where her water had broken. Calf was about an hour old at most. It tried to kill me and itself within that first hour. As I got a little closer to it to check it out. Little sucker bolted and ran through the fence. I have them in a small pen about 300 X 70 or so. One side is the side of a building, so no escape there. Another side is chainlink fience and one side is 6 wire barbed wire. Last side is 5 string barbed wire. Well it took off though the section of 5 string. I quickly went through to go get it. Did not want mama getting all tore up going through the fence also. Got it back on the right side in less than a minute. During all of that excitement I did not get chance to make sure of the sex. I think it is a heifer. I ran on down to farm supply and got some stuff for the navel. But, now scared to apply it because of all that early morning action. One quick question for the experienced folk, Should the calf be breathing real fast. When I ask that, I mean 2 hours or more after all the fence jumping, it is still breathing very fast short breaths. Plus, I have only seen it suck for about a minute or so about 4 different times. When I get done with this post. I am going back out to get a better look. Mom seems ok she does not seem to be upset with me getting close, but I don't want to push my luck. I am not real pleased with her utter. I don't like the shape. You guys tell me what you think. Especially about the breathing thing.

Mike G

[dun]

What does "breathing very fast slow breaths" mean?

[Dixieangus]

keep us posted

[goldengoat]

What does "breathing very fast slow breaths" mean?

Sorry, I meant fast short breaths. I also have another about to calve. She had about a 18 inch piece of mucus hanging out of her this morn. I might get 2 calves today.

[hillsdown]

I think they mean fast, short, shallow breaths as breathing fast deep breaths is almost impossible to do. If the calf was spooked it will take a while to calm down. Your cow has very bad edema, make sure that the calf is actually getting some groceries , the more the calf drinks the more the edema will go down. Her teats should not stick out to the sides when the edema goes down. It's either edema or her udder is blown hard to tell from the pic.

[angie]

I would be watchful of the breathing. I am wondering if you are not causing the calf anxiety (?). No, I don't like her udder ~ but it is what you have to work with for now so it is a non issue. Also, she is very engorged (as is typical), and it may take on a more regular shape (not regular but more regular) after some time. Don't worry about the calf only nursing 4 times about a minute each. If she has figured out on her own where all those parts are, then I think it is safe to assume she will do fine. She is also eating when you are not watching. I guess I will be interested to see what the others say about that calves breathing. How old is your cow? Your cow you think will be calving later ~ is she seperated from the herd as this one was, or is she out in the pasture?