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[hillsdown]

WS mistakes are made hopefully they are corrected before the cow is open for a whole season. I have one cow that had twins this year and I really wanted a certain AI bull out of her. I just could not get her to catch when she was AI'd, so I finally through her in with the bull, she is bred but she will be at the tail end of the calving interval instead of always the first to calve. If I would have just let the bull do a natural service to begin with or at least the second time ,she would be at the front where she usually always is. I kick myself everyday because I screwed up her interval and possibly a dam of distinction or merit award later. learnt my lesson, and if I was working for someone else I might have lost my job over it.

Perfect, hardly, but I am not going to punish her for my error in judgement.

[1982vett]

my bull runs with the cows year round.now if the cow goes longer than i think without calving she will be put on the cull list.i had 2 cows on the list for this fall.an they calved back real quick.so they will get to stay in the herd.

My bull runs with the cows year round too. If it wasn't that way, they'd get bred by a neighbor's bull that I don't want them bred to. I can only assume these folks with a 60 day window have no neighbors. Some of mine calve every 10 1/2 months give or take.

Thats the beauty of the south, doesn't cost near what it does to carry a cow over for a short time during the winter as it does up north so you don't have to get rid of a good cow because for some reason she didn't get bred for your timeline.

I'm holding several now because I feel I will get 10-15 cents a pound more after the first of the year. Already have a fixed cost on winter pasture and a few extra lbs won't hurt a thing. Wouldn't have though about keeping them last year.

No, it isn't bad management to keep her a while. I see it as a chance to make a better return on an investment. Tax consequences is another. So when you make a decision about what to do, it DEPENDS ( ) on more than one factor. At least it does for me.

[hillsdown]

Vette, because I calve so early in the year and it is winter , when I do throw the clean up bull in, they are in still a small winter pasture and we own the connecting land so we don't have to worry about intruders. By the time they go out to the big pasture they are all bred or they had should be. We also have a double wire of high tensile to make the fence 7 feet tall and run a strand of hot wire on our side and the neighbors run one on theirs. We all want to keep our cattle in their own pastures so it is just something we do, the one neighbor that was a real pita sold all of his cattle, so that helps as well.

[1982vett]

Vette, because I calve so early in the year and it is winter , when I do throw the clean up bull in, they are in still a small winter pasture and we own the connecting land so we don't have to worry about intruders. By the time they go out to the big pasture they are all bred or they had should be. We also have a double wire of high tensile to make the fence 7 feet tall and run a strand of hot wire on our side and the neighbors run one on theirs. We all want to keep our cattle in their own pastures so it is just something we do, the one neighbor that was a real pita sold all of his cattle, so that helps as well.

Darn, that just reminded me, I needed to pen a fence crawling bull up today and tell the owner where he was. Really should have been done yesterday afternoon but I forgot all about it. Wouldn't mind him visiting but he seems to be one of them bunk fed 14-month old bulls that matured into a pencil butt fence crawling 2 year old.

[hillsdown]

Vette, because I calve so early in the year and it is winter , when I do throw the clean up bull in, they are in still a small winter pasture and we own the connecting land so we don't have to worry about intruders. By the time they go out to the big pasture they are all bred or they had should be. We also have a double wire of high tensile to make the fence 7 feet tall and run a strand of hot wire on our side and the neighbors run one on theirs. We all want to keep our cattle in their own pastures so it is just something we do, the one neighbor that was a real pita sold all of his cattle, so that helps as well.

Darn, that just reminded me, I needed to pen a fence crawling bull up today and tell the owner where he was. Really should have been done yesterday afternoon but I forgot all about it. Wouldn't mind him visiting but he seems to be one of them bunk fed 14-month old bulls that matured into a pencil butt fence crawling 2 year old.

I am not touching that one at all... I thought it was funnel butt..

[1982vett]

Funnel butt would be a complement but that wouldn't be politically correct as that would be a form of racial profiling. Ohhhboy is this heading down the path of no return.

[randiliana]

my bull runs with the cows year round.now if the cow goes longer than i think without calving she will be put on the cull list.i had 2 cows on the list for this fall.an they calved back real quick.so they will get to stay in the herd.

My bull runs with the cows year round too. If it wasn't that way, they'd get bred by a neighbor's bull that I don't want them bred to. I can only assume these folks with a 60 day window have no neighbors. Some of mine calve every 10 1/2 months give or take.

We've got lots of neighbours. Most of the cows are bred in that 60 day window. The ones that aren't go to town once they are preg-checked open. After that there are no more non-pregnant cows in the pasture til after calving. Bulls go back with the cows after about 80 days from the start of calving, and we start the cycle over again. We have more trouble when we LEAVE our bulls with the cows past 60 days. The start getting bored and the start trying to find new girlfriends. So THEY come home to a pasture where there are no other cows to get them going. Most neighbours have a calving window too. Might not start/end exactly the same as ours, but it's usually close enough to minimize problems. The biggest problem with bulls during breeding season is having them fighting with the neighbours and wrecking fence, would hate to deal with that 365 days a year......

[novatech]

Fertility is the number one trait for my cattle. If it is not my fault then the cow is culled.
A cow just one month late breeding on a consistent basis would equal one less calf produced during her productive life span.

[HerefordSire]

Funnel butt would be a complement but that wouldn't be politically correct as that would be a form of racial profiling. Ohhhboy is this heading down the path of no return.

I am with the Politically Correct Police Hate Crime Division and you have been officially WARNED!