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Cow/calf and keep best replacements
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63%
Cow/calf terminal only operation. Buy replacements and run a terminal bull.
5
8%
all of the above
12
20%
none of the above
5
8%
 
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what kind of operation?

Postby Txwalt on Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:04 am

Dont be shy.

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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby Running Arrow Bill on Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:47 am

I couldn't vote since the questions were a little one-sided. On the other hand:

Our operation is producing registered seedstock. We run several bulls we have purchased for our breeding program. Our own bull calves are usually steered at or before weaning unless someone wants a "bull" calf for their cross-breeding or beginning longhorn program. We also put one of them in our own freezer each year.

We buy better breeding females as well as keep our top genetics females for replacements. If we have a "promising" bull calf, we'll hang on to him until 14 mos. breeding age. If he turns out good, we'll collect semen on him and then put him with a "few" 1st calf heifers for a trial. Then, we will put him up for sale. All of our herd sires are purchased to improve our bull genetics.

We also slaughter one or two of "our breeding program" less promising animals (that haven't sold) for our USDA inspected retail meat program.
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby LazyARanch on Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:35 pm

My husband and his family have had a commercial cattle operation for many years. My FIL ran between 75-100 head
of mixed breed beef cows and used a variety of bulls (mostly black) on them and then ran the calves on grass after weaning and sold them as yearlings. Our calving season runs from April My FIL passed away 2 years ago and my husband and his brother split the herd and we now have a nice group of cows (angus X, char X, simi X and herefords) none of them are registered. We still run Angus bulls but I'm trying to talk my hubby into trying a black polled homozygous something else. I have nothing against the Angus but my personal preference tends towards something with a beefier butt. Probably comes from my many years of having Quarter horses! (ha!) I just want to try something different but my husband thinks we should stay the course. I like the looks of some of the balancer bulls I've seen, as well as the Aubracs but I most definitely want to stay black, or bwf for our young stock. We raise and keep just a few good heifers each year and cull out old or non-productive cows.
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we hauled our yearlings to market last week and our steers averaged 1100 lbs! Grass fed only.... :D
our pastures were really good this year and we don't run too many animals on them.
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby ToddFarmsInc on Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:23 pm

LazyARanch wrote:.... I have nothing against the Angus but my personal preference tends towards something with a beefier butt. Probably comes from my many years of having Quarter horses! (ha!) ....


Mmmmmmm....... I've never tried Quarter Horses... .but they sound yummy! :nod:

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I've got lots of variety. They are several Generation Angus Sired, but the color throw backs are still dominate in the calves, so I have some mouse colored cows that were at one time Charlet, Several Black White face, I have however culled out all the red cows, because every year I cull out the ones I consider "mean" and I don't want to die from, funny thing... that catagory usually included a read cow. Now my herd is very gentle, except when you grab their newborn, which is a good thing I think.

I do spend the money on a couple of good new angus bulls when it's time to replace them. The Cows are either kept back heffers, or I will buy cow calf pairs from one person, a neighbor whom I usually buy my bulls from who keeps exemplairy records on his registered angus, and guarentees me the linnage of the cows in relationship to the bulls and their preformance which he gives me computer print outs on. I'm always amazed by his operation, and some day when I'm old and gray I will have a setup like that. :compute:

I have contemplated the idea of starting a second herd for better pasture rotation and management. One thing I've considered is a different breed other than black for the second herd, so I can easily tell when one gets in with the other herd.... Red would be an easy color to spot, but I don't want a red headed temper. :?
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby Txwalt on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:01 pm

Any kind of registered operation would be the first one.

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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby LazyARanch on Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:18 pm

ToddFarmsInc wrote:
LazyARanch wrote:.... I have nothing against the Angus but my personal preference tends towards something with a beefier butt. Probably comes from my many years of having Quarter horses! (ha!) ....


Mmmmmmm....... I've never tried Quarter Horses... .but they sound yummy! :nod:

:lol2:



LOL, OKKKKKKKK I probably should have rephrased that! You sure gave me a laugh! :lol2: :lol2: :tiphat:

Ya Brat! Good thing I'm not a red-head! hehe
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley on Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:31 pm

So I guess I should have marked the PB keeping best replacements, but I marked OTHER.
We offer for sale all our heifers, letting buyers pick our best. It is rare that one of our heifers wouldn't be replacement quality. We purchase top quality repacements occasionally - mostly bred heifers or cows.
LazyARanch - by yearlings, do you mean spring born of 2008?
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby HerefordSire on Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:40 pm

LazyARanch wrote:Good thing I'm not a red-head! hehe


Red headed and Italian with a splash of PMS. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby AngusLimoX on Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:50 pm

Why no "Failing" option?
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby dun on Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:58 pm

ToddFarmsInc wrote:Red would be an easy color to spot, but I don't want a red headed temper. :?

Ref Angus or Hereford either registered or commercial. If you oculd find some red Gelbvieh genetics.............
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby LazyARanch on Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:21 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:LazyARanch - by yearlings, do you mean spring born of 2008?


Hi Jeanne,

yes, our 2008 crop, ranging from approx 16-19 months old.

Mind you, it wasn't a large group, and our heifers from 2008 averaged 950 lbs, but there was only 5 of them.
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby LazyARanch on Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:33 pm

HerefordSire wrote:
LazyARanch wrote:Good thing I'm not a red-head! hehe


Red headed and Italian with a splash of PMS. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:


Nope... blonde going silver, all nordic, and only occasional PMS :devil2:

(my husband asked me what my definition of "occasional" was!!!) :banana:

I say it keeps the mystery in our relationship!! LOL :nod: :pretty: :P
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley on Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:28 am

I'm mostly silver (I like that better than grey) gone blonde! :pretty:
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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby HerefordSire on Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:48 pm

LazyARanch wrote:
HerefordSire wrote:
LazyARanch wrote:Good thing I'm not a red-head! hehe


Red headed and Italian with a splash of PMS. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:


Nope... blonde going silver, all nordic, and only occasional PMS :devil2:

(my husband asked me what my definition of "occasional" was!!!) :banana:

I say it keeps the mystery in our relationship!! LOL :nod: :pretty: :P


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Re: what kind of operation?

Postby Txwalt on Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:50 pm

Does anyone think the results seem a bit strange. Maybe not surprising but...

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