OCC Legend 916S

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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby Avalon on Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:06 pm

I love the looks of your bull. However in may part of the country he's a bit to small. Anything under a 6 just will not cut it when selling seed stock. I can see that he would be great for terminal uses. Especially on top of European crosses. He is very powerful looking, great muscle expression and structure. By the bloodline and his look and your statements he's an easy keeper which is pricless in these times.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby 3waycross on Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:20 pm

What is his frame score????????
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby alacattleman on Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:21 pm

looks to me like with that much muscle and thickness in a smaller frame would work about anywhere.... great in the good area's.............. and good in the bad
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby KMacGinley on Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:18 am

He is real close to a 5 to tell you the truth, I have not measured him, I am guessing a high 4 low 5. We have a bunch of thick sons out of larger framed good uddered cows. Hint Hint. Also we are collecting him the first week of November. I need some people to help me prove him out, if interested pm me.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby Jake on Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:38 pm

KMacGinley wrote:He is real close to a 5 to tell you the truth, I have not measured him, I am guessing a high 4 low 5. We have a bunch of thick sons out of larger framed good uddered cows. Hint Hint. Also we are collecting him the first week of November. I need some people to help me prove him out, if interested pm me.


How have you gotten along with the milking ability on your Legend descendents? I've got a legend daughter that is an extremely eye appealing cow. Lot of capacity, length, mucle, but I'd really like to see her milk a little better.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby KMacGinley on Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:46 am

So far so good, but I have some really good milking cows that they are out of, maybe a little too good. :) 916S has a decent milk epd compared to his sire, so I think his calves will be alright.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby Jake on Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:26 pm

KMacGinley wrote:So far so good, but I have some really good milking cows that they are out of, maybe a little too good. :) 916S has a decent milk epd compared to his sire, so I think his calves will be alright.


I finally looked at his pedigree and I'd say with his Durabull dam there shouldn't be any problems with milk. Definately a well bred solid bull in every aspect.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby R.N.Reed on Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:49 am

Better than the bull are his calves.I have seen them in person and they are good and they are all the same,no matter the cow type or breeding.He is what they used to call a geneticaly prepotent breeding bull.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby KMacGinley on Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:24 pm

Thanks Gary: That is high praise coming from a shorthorn man :)
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby KMacGinley on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:39 pm

R.N.Reed wrote:Better than the bull are his calves.I have seen them in person and they are good and they are all the same,no matter the cow type or breeding.He is what they used to call a geneticaly prepotent breeding bull.


Speaking of that, here are some shots I took of the weaned calves tonight.
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These are a couple of the bull calves
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A rear view of some heifers.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby EAT BEEF on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:56 pm

They look good 2 me
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby DOC HARRIS on Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:45 pm

Here are the kind and type of calves which elevate a producer up into the higher levels of respect that you deserve, Mac! Not only do the calves reflect the breeding that they possess, but that terrific feeding barn adds to the quality of the care and effort that you have expended in their production!

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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby KMacGinley on Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:58 pm

Thanks Doc: This will be the second year for the barn. The first year worked very well. The heifers and bull calves were in it until Feb 1st. I moved the heifers out to another barn and lot adjacent to the pasture where they ended up spending the summer. The Steers and the bull calves that I kept went to a different barn and lot. Both are on the way home from school for my 17 year old so he checked them every day.

The cows came off the corn stalks Feb 2nd. and into the barn they went. We hand fed them hay every day, with bred heifers and thinner cows on the east and the older better conditioned cows on the west. Since they were all under roof, we managed to capture all of their manure, enough to fertilize 20 acres of hay ground. always before they were out in the woods and we wasted this resource. We took out almost 3 feet of manure from the barn, but since we could raise the feeders it worked well. No starting up an engine and feeding silage for an hour and a half every night. Feeding was done in 20 minutes or less easily.

One change for this year is the purchase of a 4x4 round baler. I can cut the strings and unroll the bales by hand along the feeder. We can stack 200 round bales our size in there and still leave room to park our fleet of elderly tractors. :)

We fed the heifers and bull calves hay all winter with a homemade feeder wagon, blatantly copied from one of the H&S wagons and a purchased H&S. We fed 0 grain to the calves. The bulls and steers were finished on pasture. We built the homemade one in the shop using the frame from those trailers they haul modular homes on and some purchased steel for the racks. This has been a very good investment for us.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby ANAZAZI on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:37 am

purecountry wrote:He's an exceptional individual, although, what's with all the white? He's got ALOT of it, goes halfway up his sheath. Other than that, he's spectacular. Although in my herd he'd have been banded as a calf for packing that much white.


And that is what selecting for colour is all about; to sacrifice easy fleshing, productivity and correct phenotype for the higher good! Irony intended.
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Re: OCC Legend 916S

Postby purecountry on Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:36 am

ANAZAZI wrote:
purecountry wrote:He's an exceptional individual, although, what's with all the white? He's got ALOT of it, goes halfway up his sheath. Other than that, he's spectacular. Although in my herd he'd have been banded as a calf for packing that much white.


And that is what selecting for colour is all about; to sacrifice easy fleshing, productivity and correct phenotype for the higher good! Irony intended.


HUH?????? Are you insinuating that I select only for color? That's certainly not what I meant by my comment. I was stating that it's something that I INCLUDE in my selection process, nothing more.
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