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Charolais

Postby kenny thomas » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:33 pm

Have not seen anyone posting pictures of Charolais here. Any breeders out there?
I use Black Simmental bulls now but for years used Charolais for crossbreeding with very good luck. Thinking about buying a couple of young Charolais bulls this fall if I can find the right ones.
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Re: Charolais

Postby Red Bull Breeder » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:58 pm

Cypress posted one a while back he was working a deal on. Mnmt posted some pictures one of them looked straight bred Char.
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Re: Charolais

Postby kenny thomas » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:02 pm

I saw the one cypress posted. I would be looking for some that are 6-6.5 frame with a lot of muscle. Epd's mean a lot but I like eye appeal also. I will not buy without EPD info, no matter how good they look.
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Re: Charolais

Postby aussie_cowgirl » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:08 pm

Are you looking to buy or AI or something? I think the 6 and 6.5 frame may be a little ambitious. Most Chars have bigger frame scores than that.
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Re: Charolais

Postby ANAZAZI » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:05 am

Go buy some blonde daquitaines for the terminal instead, crosses great with simmenthal (at least the red ones), more muscle, easier calvings, same growth.
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Re: Charolais

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:57 am

Here in USA we've really moderated our frame size. Should be able to find 6 - 6.5 frame Chars.
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Re: Charolais

Postby aussie_cowgirl » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:02 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Here in USA we've really moderated our frame size. Should be able to find 6 - 6.5 frame Chars.
Anazazi - not many blonde's around that I am aware of - other than dumb blonds like me! :banana:


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Re: Charolais

Postby ANAZAZI » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:13 am

I meant dumb blonde daquitaines!
Even if they are rare you only need one, if it is a bull.
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Re: Charolais

Postby HerefordSire » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:55 am

If the cattle are yellow here, they bring more than black. Not sure of all the ways to make yellows though.

In Town: Kathy works as a bookkeeper for Danny and Donna Montgomery. They own Fiser Kubota. They have the Fiser Kubota tractor stores in Russellville, Ark., and in Little Rock.

In the Country: Kathy's farm, located outside Harrison, Ark., was passed down to her from her father. Most of it was the original family homestead, and some he added over the years. She runs around 100 head of cattle. She has hay put up on shares, around 500 or 600 bales every year. She runs a Charolais bull on her red cows or a Red Gelbvieh bull on her Charolais cows. These crosses bring her yellow calves. She says yellow Charolais calves bring more than straight Charolais often.

Why did you choose Charolais and Gelbvieh?
"We have quite a bit of a coyote problem. The Charolais cows are very protective. They will fight the coyotes or dogs. They're different like that. And the Gelbvieh, I love my Gelbvieh bull. He is so gentle. Gelbvieh cows are a little easier to work with."

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Re: Charolais

Postby whitecow » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:11 am

kenny thomas wrote:Have not seen anyone posting pictures of Charolais here. Any breeders out there?
I use Black Simmental bulls now but for years used Charolais for crossbreeding with very good luck. Thinking about buying a couple of young Charolais bulls this fall if I can find the right ones.


Don't have time right now, but I'll post a few later today...
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Re: Charolais

Postby Brandonm22 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:22 am

aussie_cowgirl wrote:Are you looking to buy or AI or something? I think the 6 and 6.5 frame may be a little ambitious. Most Chars have bigger frame scores than that.


Jeanne is right. The American breeders have really been able too moderate the frame on the Chars.

Genex lists this sire as a 6.1 frame
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 51&lang=EN

This one is a 6.3
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 44&lang=EN

This one is red and polled
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 54&lang=EN
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Re: Charolais

Postby BRG » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:42 am

kenny thomas wrote:Have not seen anyone posting pictures of Charolais here. Any breeders out there?
I use Black Simmental bulls now but for years used Charolais for crossbreeding with very good luck. Thinking about buying a couple of young Charolais bulls this fall if I can find the right ones.


How about a good Red Angus bull Kenny :)

If I were to get into the Char deal or use some Char genetics, I would really look hard at the Lindscov Theil program. Pick up a Genex or ABS book and they are all over the place. I know the people and the ranch and they are as good as you will find. They ranch about 1/2 hour drive from us. Mike Callis has used his genetics and has bulls for sale in Alabama, but I am sure their are breeders in your area that have infused the LT genetics into their program.

Here is their website
http://www.ltranch.com
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Re: Charolais

Postby alacattleman » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:19 pm

mike c that used too frequent the boards raise's them,,, dont know why he quit posting
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Re: Charolais

Postby aussie_cowgirl » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:16 pm

Brandonm22 wrote:
aussie_cowgirl wrote:Are you looking to buy or AI or something? I think the 6 and 6.5 frame may be a little ambitious. Most Chars have bigger frame scores than that.


Jeanne is right. The American breeders have really been able too moderate the frame on the Chars.

Genex lists this sire as a 6.1 frame
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 51&lang=EN

This one is a 6.3
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 44&lang=EN

This one is red and polled
http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... 54&lang=EN


none of those links work but it's ok I take your word for it.
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Re: Charolais

Postby Cattleman200 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:00 pm

Kenny, there is a breeder thats a good friend of mine that lives about 7-8 miles from here. He has a website with cattle Today. www.bjrsummerford.com He has some really good Charolais cattle and they are really good people.


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