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Re: Ear tags

Postby rockridgecattle » Sat May 02, 2009 6:12 pm

Brisket tags and bush do not get along in our small part of the world. There is alot of underbrush and dead fall that would just love to snag a brisket tag and do some right nasty damage
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Re: Ear tags

Postby kenny thomas » Sat May 02, 2009 7:11 pm

Farmgirl10, I use the large Y-tex not the ex-large.
Are the ritchey or the Z-tags a one piece tag?
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Re: Ear tags

Postby Aaron » Sat May 02, 2009 8:14 pm

kenny thomas wrote:Farmgirl10, I use the large Y-tex not the ex-large.
Are the ritchey or the Z-tags a one piece tag?


Z-tags are one piece. Ritchey are one, two or three piece, with different attachment types. I use the button type (Universal) that is similar to the male button used on allflex tags. Have used the three piece snap type but found long-term retention to be poor. Ritchey tags are very flexible, even in sub-zero temps and can always be read...that is why I use them. :cowboy:
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Re: Ear tags

Postby mnmtranching » Sun May 03, 2009 11:04 am

Guy down the road has 7 pair, got tags in both ears of all 14 head. Got numbers like C-15-A and stuff like that on the tags. Wonder what is is recording? :cowboy:
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Re: Ear tags

Postby Roadapple » Sun May 03, 2009 11:26 am

I use the Z tags and have only lost 2 because I used the same hole as the Du-fus tags came out of. Then, as I'm able to read, I read the directions, and it said don't do that, so I don't do that. Hav'nt lost any since.
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Re: Ear tags - location

Postby SRBeef » Sun May 03, 2009 10:32 pm

There must be something about this time of year and ear tags.... I was checking out the calves yesterday (last one calved yesterday afternoon) trying ot get some photos and identifying marks so I can tell which calf goes with which cow when we work all of them in July.

I was surprised to find 3 cows with eartags either broken off (2-stud and ring still in place) or missing completely (1) with a rather large hole showing and close to the edge of the ear.

These are Duflex extra large and all three are cows that I purchased and came with the tags.

The one with the large open hole got me thinking that it looked like the tag was originally applied too close to the edge of the ear. The Duflex instruction sheet shows then going in about the middle of the ear with the stud well between the two cartilidge ribs. None of these three missing really looks like it is in the place they recommend in the instructions. The ones I've applied I tried to hit that spot and they seem to have held but are the smaller size tags.

I wonder if the smaller size tag in the correct position would solve a lot of these tag problems? Two questions there I guess, size and location. Do smaller tags really stay in better as a calf turns into a retained heifer and cow. Should I leave the small tags in? I have been changing tags on the keepers.

How important is a reasonable variation in location in the ear to retention?

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Re: Ear tags

Postby showing71 » Sun May 03, 2009 10:42 pm

I've noticed this year that the buttons on our Y-tex tags haven't been holding up. I've tagged calves that are a day old and go out the next day and find the brand new tag on the ground, or during tagging the buttons break. Any one having this problem? Or did I just get a bad couple of bags?

SRBeef wrote:How important is a reasonable variation in location in the ear to retention?

Jim

I put tags in the middle of the ear in the middle lobe. Some years several calves/cows rip them out (cows have large tag, calves small), then the next year they all stay in and none get ripped out. I think retention depends on what the animal does in the pasture/dry lot, like if they are rubbing on everything or not.
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Re: Ear tags

Postby backhoeboogie » Mon May 04, 2009 8:33 am

mnmtranching wrote:Guy down the road has 7 pair, got tags in both ears of all 14 head. Got numbers like C-15-A and stuff like that on the tags. Wonder what is is recording? :cowboy:


Maybe it is kind of like the ladies who have a half dozen earings in their ear :D Most of my cows have ears like jack rabbits. Lots of real estate.

My cows get number tags for i.d. and fly tags too. Without numbers it would be hard to keep up with who is who.
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Re: Ear tags

Postby TexasBred » Mon May 04, 2009 1:47 pm

Looks like you're selling. ;-)
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Re: Ear tags

Postby msscamp » Mon May 04, 2009 11:42 pm

rockridgecattle wrote:The key is to not to use the same hole if you have to replace one in an older cow.


Anytime a cow lost her tag we always retagged using the same hole, never made a difference on the retention time of the tag.

As far as the "best" tag, we've used pretty much every one on the market - they all have their good points, as well as their bad points. The last several years, we used Y-Tex tags that were custom numbered at the local co-op because of the flexibility - they worked very well. One thing I have noticed with my goats - Y-Tex is a lot easier to tag with because the point is a lot sharper than All-Flex. Just my .02 cents.
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Re: Ear tags

Postby Douglas » Tue May 05, 2009 2:39 pm

Do the sale barns reference your tag number?
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Re: Ear tags - location

Postby MoGal » Tue May 05, 2009 3:30 pm

SRBeef wrote:There must be something about this time of year and ear tags.... I was checking out the calves yesterday (last one calved yesterday afternoon) trying ot get some photos and identifying marks so I can tell which calf goes with which cow when we work all of them in July.

I was surprised to find 3 cows with eartags either broken off (2-stud and ring still in place) or missing completely (1) with a rather large hole showing and close to the edge of the ear.

These are Duflex extra large and all three are cows that I purchased and came with the tags.

The one with the large open hole got me thinking that it looked like the tag was originally applied too close to the edge of the ear. The Duflex instruction sheet shows then going in about the middle of the ear with the stud well between the two cartilidge ribs. None of these three missing really looks like it is in the place they recommend in the instructions. The ones I've applied I tried to hit that spot and they seem to have held but are the smaller size tags.

I wonder if the smaller size tag in the correct position would solve a lot of these tag problems? Two questions there I guess, size and location. Do smaller tags really stay in better as a calf turns into a retained heifer and cow. Should I leave the small tags in? I have been changing tags on the keepers.

How important is a reasonable variation in location in the ear to retention?

Jim


SR - I think Duflex has changed something..... We've always used them and some have their same tag going on 4 years now (with the ink as bright as it was when we put it on) Last year and this year we've had more problems with the tags coming out, the ink fading and the tag ripping off underneath where its pinned in the ear. What good does it do to have a tag when the ink is so faded you can't read it unless they are in the head chute. I think they've changed the way they manufacture the plastic and the ink..... for the worst.
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Re: Ear tags

Postby Livestock-D » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:30 pm

kenny thomas wrote:How about a serious post on ear tags.
Anyone have an ear tag that will not come out in normal pasture conditions. Worked 70 cows and had to replace 5. Not a big expense but would love to have one that never comes out. Also one that the numbers will not fade.
Any suggestions?


Hello Everyone, here is 2 great posts on Ear Tags, also a very use post to improve Tag Retention, which provides great tips, some you might not have thought about.

CCIA Approved Tags:
http://livestock-id.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... -tags.html

USDA 840 Approved Ear Tags:
http://livestock-id.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... -tags.html

How to Improve RFID Tag Retention:
http://livestock-id.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... ntion.html
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Re: Ear tags

Postby bird dog » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:20 pm

I use the tags from the sheep supply house Premier. You can put your name or ranch name on them. They are two sided. The color fades some but the number and lettering is still legible after the six or seven years that I have been using them. The ones I have are to small with my bad eyes but they have a new larger version now. I run about 40 cows and lose about two a year. One thing that I have noticed about a cow losing her tag is when I dump off a round bail and the cow starts scratching her head on it before I get a ring over it, they hang the tag on the strings and jerk it off. Maybe they do this on purpose?
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Re: Ear tags

Postby Suzie Q » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:56 pm

I remove the netting before I put the round bales down.

I am sure you could still put a ring over them then, even if the cattle have had a go at pulling it apart. I don't know, I don't have any experience with that and I guess it might depend on what kind of hay you are feeding.
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