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Red Shell Shocked

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:37 am

Fire Sweep thought my Shell Shocked would be black. I am not so sure. I sold a bred heifer to Kentuckyguy and his Shell Shocked is red.

Here is a recent picture Kentuckyguy sent: Heifer.
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:49 am

They both look terrific to me.
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:55 am

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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They both look terrific to me.
Fire Sweep just sent me a text. She loves the red heifer. She didn't brag on mine. 😥
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:04 am

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
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They both look terrific to me.
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You never know how they are going to develop but you get a pretty good idea. I am going to place my bets on this guy. Pictures from this morning. My Optimizer Bull out of Twister:

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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:11 am

He looks good.
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by FlyingLSimmentals » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:10 am

How's Tatum's doing?

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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:38 am

FlyingLSimmentals wrote:
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How's Tatum's doing?

Got to be honest. That calf is not impressive! He may surprise me but he has got to make his move.
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by kentuckyguy » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:52 am

Hopefully my heifer grows out well. If she does my daughter will being showing her next year. She’s very excited about it.

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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by FlyingLSimmentals » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:54 am

Bright Raven wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:38 am
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How's Tatum's doing?

Got to be honest. That calf is not impressive! He may surprise me but he has got to make his move.
He's not very old, he's got time.

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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:54 pm

FlyingLSimmentals wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:54 am
Bright Raven wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:38 am
FlyingLSimmentals wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:10 am
How's Tatum's doing?

Got to be honest. That calf is not impressive! He may surprise me but he has got to make his move.
He's not very old, he's got time.
His Dam has produced good calves. I will get a recent picture.
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:11 pm

Some of the other calves from this morning. These are just opportunistic shots with a cell.

Cowboy Cut heifer out of one of my best cows. I fully plan on her being a keeper:
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Optimizer Heifer. I think another keeper:
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Very Docile:
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Elevate Bull out of an Optimizer Cow.
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This is a Shear Force cow. She is my straggler. Not due until the first of the year. She took on first AI but lost the pregnancy in early embryonic phase. Bred her back but she will be late.
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:58 pm

Calves really look good. Optimizer heifer had "the pose".
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by WinterSpringsFarm » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:29 pm

2 of my shell shocks were red. Same cow family, so I suppose they had the red gene.

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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:25 am

WinterSpringsFarm wrote:
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2 of my shell shocks were red. Same cow family, so I suppose they had the red gene.
No "suppose" about it. They each are carrying the red gene. Can't get a red calf unless it gets a red gene from sire AND dam. If both parents are black carrying a red gene - you have a 25% chance of getting a red calf.
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Re: Red Shell Shocked

Post by Bright Raven » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:48 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:25 am
WinterSpringsFarm wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:29 pm
2 of my shell shocks were red. Same cow family, so I suppose they had the red gene.
No "suppose" about it. They each are carrying the red gene. Can't get a red calf unless it gets a red gene from sire AND dam. If both parents are black carrying a red gene - you have a 25% chance of getting a red calf.
Exactly. Both dam and sire are Heterozygous for the gene that expresses color. They each carry the RECESSIVE gene that expresses the red trait. When they mate, the progeny will have the following probabilities:

A 25 % probability for BB. Homozygous black.
A 50 % probability for Bb. Heterozygous black.
A 25 % probability for bb. Homozygous red.

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