Neighbor's cattle profits

[VanC]

There is a bigger problem here with the thieve's of government that have been stealing from us for decades.

There should be no such thing as a career politician, term limits need set. So many of these jackoff's have never worked in the real world for an extended period of time. Public servant my a$$. They are pocketing a nice check, dam nice health care, and a wonderful retirement all at our expense while wining, dinning, and screwing the American public!!!

If only people would exercise the right they already have to limit a politians term, we wouldn't have to worry about it. The SCOTUS has already ruled on this issue. Setting term limits was deemed unconstitutional based on the fact that the people have the right to vote for whomever they choose. It's also redundant, in that we also have the right to NOT VOTE THEM BACK INTO OFFICE.

I believe the case you're referring to arose when some states attempted to limit the terms of their US Congessmen and Senators. The Supreme Court struck those laws down, stating that laws enacted by states cannot supercede the US Constitution. Term limits for the US Congress could still happen, but it would take a constitutional amendment, as it did for limiting the president's terms.

There are two ways to amend the Constitution. The only one that's been used so far is a 2/3 vote by both the House and Senate followed by ratification by 3/4 of the state legislatures. Doubtful that will ever happen. The other way is a Constitutional Convention called by 2/3 of the state's legislatures, again followed by ratification by 3/4 of the states. I'm guessing that's our only hope, and even that will be an uphill battle.

[backhoeboogie]

Heck Van, that's like asking them to take a pay cut. They generally go and give themselves another raise if someone requests that.

Aint no way they are gonna vote to end their careers. They like that pac money and greased palms from everything else.

[dieselbeef]

thats the short version of what i was gonna say...clean version of what i was gonna say

[backhoeboogie]

thats the short version of what i was gonna say...clean version of what i was gonna say

Shucks, Wished I hadn't said it now. We prefer your version.

[Ryder]

I know, but it's not quite right to blame a politian for taking advantage of the stupidity of the electorate.
We still have the ultimate authority. If everyone stopped voting for the guy who's promising everyone something for nothing and instead voted based on the concept of limited Federal authority, and increased State & Local authority, we would have some chance of surviving. Until that happens, it's just a sinking ship.

I totally agree.
There is just one small problem you are never going to get the liberal who is sucking on the government tit to vote that way. As long as he can draw housing, food stamp's, welfare check all without working you will never convince him there is a better way. Life is good living off us. We need to do away with the electoral college and go to the popular vote we don't have much of a chance or give each state the same number of vote's.

Agree with both of you.
Cottage Farm the ship is sinking in my opinion and baling water with a leaking bucket is not going to do any good.

Caustic it is not just the fault of the free loaders. What really gets me is the bleeding heart liberals that give them everything.

[Workinonit Farm]

Cottage Farm the ship is sinking in my opinion and baling water with a leaking bucket is not going to do any good.

Caustic it is not just the fault of the free loaders. What really gets me is the bleeding heart liberals that give them everything.

I agree with all 3 of you!! And frankly, it scares the he]] out of me that the current "leader" may actually be re-elected. My frustration level with this whole mess is incredible. I vote, I send letters, I send e-mails and most frustrating of all is trying to get people out there to vote who won't vote. I get tired of hearing all the whining about the current situation followed by "I don't vote because its rigged, they alreday know who's gonna win", "one vote won't make a difference" "it doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all crooks" and last but not least my favorite..."If I vote I'll be called in for jury duty and I don't want to do jury duty"

It's pathetic! I often have to sit on my hands when all this stuff comes up on here for fear of spouting off and getting things shut down.

One more thing---I'm amazed this thread has kept going. Thank you to the poewrs that be.

Katherine

Katherine

[backhoeboogie]

It's pathetic! I often have to sit on my hands when all this stuff comes up on here for fear of spouting off and getting things shut down.

One more thing---I'm amazed this thread has kept going. Thank you to the poewrs that be.

Katherine

Don't be sitting on those hands any more. It makes people think you are riding the fence. People who want to ride the fence do not want to be on my side of the fence. Or else they cannot make up their minds.

I am very liberal when it comes to making coffee. I put in twice as much coffee grounds as I should. Other than that............

[backhoeboogie]

I loved Yosemite Sam.
I still get tickled when I think about him when he was the Black Knight and had a fire breathing lizard.
The Arab beating the fire out of that camel is a classic as well.

I'd like me some of them Yosemite mud flaps.

The Leta Laroe image tends to make my hormones do strange things.

[J&D Cattle]

What really gets me is the bleeding heart liberals that give them everything.

I'm an equal opportunist and would give plenty of blame to the big business conservatives too. I blame all equally regardless of party affiliation. Everybody could and should be doing more for their elected positions.

[Dave]

I still want to know about my nieghbors cattle profit's. I think the government should tell me what they are. I might need to change the way I am doing things.

[backhoeboogie]

I still want to know about my nieghbors cattle profit's. I think the government should tell me what they are. I might need to change the way I am doing things.

The gubment prolly won't know about the cash exchanges. Anything they know about eats up 35% of that profit they are bragging about.

[Massey135]

35%? Dam, big baller

[Workinonit Farm]

Don't be sitting on those hands any more. It makes people think you are riding the fence.

Don't get me started, I don't want to be the one who gets this thread locked. Unfortunately the one in Coffee Shop (about the Supremem Court ruling) was locked before I ever got to catching up).

People who want to ride the fence do not want to be on my side of the fence. Or else they cannot make up their minds.

I am very liberal when it comes to making coffee. I put in twice as much coffee grounds as I should.

Sounds good to me, especially 1st thing in the morning. A good strong cup of coffee in the morning is hard to beat!

Other than that............

Okay, I'll add my about 1 thing, and I'll try not to get the thread locked in the process. "Poor people" and "the uninsured" DO have access to quality healthcare. I'm sick and tired of hearing that they don't. At several times in my life I did not have health insuarance, I needed healthcare, I had access and I paid for it. A couple of times it wasn't cheap, I set up a payment plan with the hospital for the ER visit. I set up a payment plan with the dentist when necessary. In fact, after I had health insurance it cost more! A very dear friend of ours was having issues, (long story short) he ended up with one of the better Cardiologists in town, at the time he was not on Medicare nor did he have insurance, nor did he have much money. Diagnosed w/Atrial Fibrillation. He got the care he needed, Dr. charged on a sliding scale, he made payments, it didn't break him. His prescriptions are cheaper if he pays out of pocket than if he signed up for a prescription plan. He has since reached "retirement" age. He also went through 2 bouts with cancer, colon and rectal. He only has regular Medicare, no supplemental, no prescrip. He got treatment right away, applied for a grant (from a privately funded outfit) to help with Chemo cost, he qualified (chemo only) had his radiation, 3 surgeries and is now cancer free. He had access to healthcare. He made payments, reasonable amounts. He is happy.

If healthcare goes Governmental/socialized, there will not be private "foundations" which are funded purely by charitable donations, Doctors will no longer have any control over their billing and therefore not be able to "cut a break" now and then. They will not have the "say" they have now as to treatment options. Treatments will not happen as expiditiously as they do now. People who want "extra" tests, etc who are willing and able to pay for them themselves(out of pocket) will no longer be able to do so.

I do agree that healthcare costs are waaay more costly than they should be, that change can start with Tort reform (as mentioned previously be someone else). My regular general practitioner finally quit and retired early due to the cost of malpractice insurance, I couldn't blame him. A change needs to be made for sure, but not in the form of socialized medicine. We (the U.S.A.) can't afford it. The Gov't cannot afford to run the healthcare system the way it operates now.

Okay, I'm done trying not to rant. Hopefully my ramblings are read the way I meant them to be. <---------(here's a good place to insert a "stirring the pot" smiley)

How's that Boogie?

Katherine

[dieselbeef]

everything costs more than it should

[greatgerts]

It's pathetic! I often have to sit on my hands when all this stuff comes up on here for fear of spouting off and getting things shut down.

One more thing---I'm amazed this thread has kept going. Thank you to the poewrs that be.

Katherine

Don't be sitting on those hands any more. It makes people think you are riding the fence. People who want to ride the fence do not want to be on my side of the fence. Or else they cannot make up their minds.

I am very liberal when it comes to making coffee. I put in twice as much coffee grounds as I should. Other than that............

I guess I am liberal too. When planning out anything to build, I make sure to make it twice as strong as what is needed.