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Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby JenLamb35 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:49 pm

Due to the lack of rain and grass growth, we are wanting to temporarily move our cattle around to harvested hay fields. What do you recommend for electric fencing? Poly rope or regular wire? What chargers seem to be best? We've never used electric fences before so any suggestions are appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby dun » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:11 pm

Are they trained to hotwire? If they are I would just go with the 9 conductor polywire if not I would go with the poly rope or HT wire strictly for the visibility issues.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby jerry27150 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:53 pm

i prefer red snapper 50 miler, parmac has a lot of trouble with lightning. i have one ground rod & hook ground to corral also, have never had a ground problem.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby dun » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:58 pm

jerry27150 wrote:i prefer red snapper 50 miler, parmac has a lot of trouble with lightning. i have one ground rod & hook ground to corral also, have never had a ground problem.

The ground recommendation is based on the lack of precip that was mentioned. Even in our mostly rock soil the charger runs 8-9k volts a half mile from the source.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:10 pm

I am running 3 Parmak solar unit's and have been for year's. I know one is over ten year's old, only thing I have ever done is changed out batteries.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby Douglas » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:33 am

Like Dun mentioned you need them trained first. Put a hot wire inside your existing fence for training purposes for a few days. Tie some red flagging tape to the inside and then when they see the flag around the new hay field they will know the deal.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby Limomike » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:29 am

I agree. We have used Parmak for years.. still working great... and go with the polywire.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby JenLamb35 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:15 pm

Thanks for the great suggestions. No, our cattle have never been around electric fences. I appreciate all the good feedback and advice.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby salebarn junkie » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:28 pm

I hook a couple of coke cans to the fence they usually come over and touch there nose to it and there trained, works really good on calves.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby JenLamb35 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:57 pm

Possible stupid questions here - I am reading that you want to put some wooden posts throughout the fence for support. Our span is about 1/4 mile on side and 1/2 mile on another corner and the rest is good permanent fence. Do we need wooden posts in that small of a span? About how far apart should we set the posts?
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby Texas PaPaw » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:12 pm

JenLamb35 wrote:Possible stupid questions here - I am reading that you want to put some wooden posts throughout the fence for support. Our span is about 1/4 mile on side and 1/2 mile on another corner and the rest is good permanent fence. Do we need wooden posts in that small of a span? About how far apart should we set the posts?


For polywire, I use 1/2 inch fiberglass rod for corners and 3/8 inch fg or stepins for line posts. I avoid steel posts as they are a short looking for a place to happen. If running alongside an existing barbed wire fence you can also use standoffs instead of line posts. No wood is needed. Spacing should be whatever is necessary to maintain the desired height. In some cases that may be 50-60 ft and in rolling terrain, gullies etc it may be only a few feet. Would recommend keeping it simple.

Remember e-fence is a mental barrier not a physical barrier. It only needs to be hot and at a reasonable height to retain trained cattle. Don't over complicate it.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby dun » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:16 pm

Texas PaPaw wrote:For polywire, I use 1/2 inch fiberglass rod for corners and 3/8 inch fg or stepins for line posts. I avoid steel posts as they are a short looking for a place to happen. If running alongside an existing barbed wire fence you can also use standoffs instead of line posts. No wood is needed. Spacing should be whatever is necessary to maintain the desired height. In some cases that may be 50-60 ft and in rolling terrain, gullies etc it may be only a few feet. Would recommend keeping it simple.

Remember e-fence is a mental barrier not a physical barrier. It only needs to be hot and at a reasonable height to retain trained cattle. Don't over complicate it.

Pretty much the same except we use 3/8 pound in fiberglass posts (with sungaurd) for the line posts.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby W-5 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:22 pm

What does it take to train the cattle, and how long?
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby Caustic Burno » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:28 pm

W-5 wrote:What does it take to train the cattle, and how long?


About 6,000 volt's once on the smart one's two or three times on the dumb one's.
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Re: Electric Fence Suggestions?

Postby Texas PaPaw » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:02 pm

W-5 wrote:What does it take to train the cattle, and how long?


Mine are trained in my receiving corral that is about 50 x 150 ft. Have a hot wire that runs perpendicular from one of the long sides. It only reaches about 15ft into the pen and is between the water trough and the feed bunk. When they are walking the fence they will encounter it and have to go around the end to get from water to feed. As CB said, it only takes once for the smart ones and 2-3 times for the dumber ones. Now the really smart ones will never touch it after seeing their buddy jump and bawl when it touches the wire. Just put the training wire somewhere they are sure to encounter it. Place it where it partially blocks the path to water and they have to detour around the end of the wire to get a drink.

One day will usually do the job but 2-3 days are plenty for small groups. The key is to make their first experience very painful.
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